Gutted about this one. Very likeable player and person.

Completely agree with this JWH will spend more time banned than playing in SL.

Martin, whilst being a great player, is part of a problem we have of a small backrow. That's proved by the fact he is moved to centre rather than prop when we're short in both. Its a shame we missed out of Fitzgibbon, as he's a good size.

Personally I'm looking forward to seeing what Blease can do. If Arthur stays on, perhaps we could look at a couple of the Eels players they're currently looking to move on. Regan Campell Gillard and Shaun Lane would be exactly what we need.

Martin will be 32 in March; although he has a few good years left in him he is also moving towards the back end of his career. We have had good service from him but agree with Exiled, we need to beef up that pack, and it's not just a prop problem.

We need more size, more pace and more skill if we're going to break out of this mid-table mediocrity.

I do think Martin is a very solid player, very consistent and injury-resistant... I just think Leeds need a re-vamp. If we can get two really decent forwards with Arthur's help, it will take us a big step forward.

We'll need three forwards and kicker in order to be certain we progress as a team. Not impossible, but will certainly be a challenge. Think we'll also likely have to offload one of Miller, Mom, or Frawley.

Slightly off topic, hand on heart how many players in our current squad would be described as top notch players. In my opinion very few, which makes our rebuild programme harder than normal. The home game so called match experience and the clubs off field running of the club, which is excellent ,means quite a few people will still attend in spite of the teams lack lustre performances. Prior to super league a few poor seasons would mean a sharp fall in attendances.

Gutted that we couldn't get him to stay, excellent player and been very good value for us. Personally idve made him captain as he does that job for the Kumuls and as mentioned is generally injury free.
Its not the end of the world of course and Im sure we made a decent offer / upgraded contract but maybe after the last few years he just wants a change of pace which I cant blame him on.

Can we please offload all three

Don't you believe it , the matchday experience is poor and if you like a beer it is garbage . More and more supporters are getting fed up with the changes to kick of times and days , our group of five will not renew our season tickets next season .

I haven't even heard of any possible replacements for Rhyse either. If we're after an out and out kicker only then would be nice to lure someone like Sneyd over unless he's under a big contract. But otherwise.... I dunno...

Interesting, I got the impression from quite a few of my pals who attend with grand kids all was well. Odd occasion if family are visting I splash the cash and go in the North stand ,have a meal and a few drinks. IT’s well organised and in my opinion good value.

To be honest, I think you'd be doing yourself a favour if you did cancel. If i was at your level of epic level of dissallusionment I definitely would.

The match experience is awful. Rubbish beers and rubbish food. A light show when it isn't dark and a baby race at half time.

I generally go to catch up with friends and family, whilst watching my team. It is nice when we play well but this has been extremely rare for far too long, and I end up leaving disappointed most matches. I will really have to see what our squad looks like before committing to next year.

The departure of Rhyse Martin should send a stark message to the powers that be at Headingley. There may be a number of factors in Rhyse leaving, money, ambition, a lack of faith in the club etc. The takings will be down in the coffee shops of Headingley when he leaves, and he’d better get used to Maxwell House when he moves to Hull. I wish him well, but I think this is a defining moment for the club and it’s fans when our talismanic goal kicker and one of our best, most consistent players up’s and leaves to Hull.

I think the coffee shops will be fine, I very much doubt he’ll actually move to Hull, I mean you just wouldn’t would you

When a player leaves it gives us an opportunity to replace them with someone better. Let’s see what IB does, it’s probably his first major test on the playing squad side.