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I have an impossible dream that one day we may be able to pick a team from a fit and healthy full squad.

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Quote: Clearwing "And repeat. Dwyer will get a ban because that's how the RFL is reinforcing its policing of late hits this year. Judging by this weekend's games some coaches understand this. Others remain entrenched in "but what about" territory.'"

If the Dwyer incident is the bench mark so be it. Unfortunately I can see some referees not having the courage to implement the rule.
I think the Dwyer sin bin was instrumental in us losing the game. We used up a massive amount of energy with just 11 players.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "If the Dwyer incident is the bench mark so be it. Unfortunately I can see some referees not having the courage to implement the rule.
I think the Dwyer sin bin was instrumental in us losing the game. We used up a massive amount of energy with just 11 players.'"


I completely agree that the Dwyer sin bin had a major impact but who do you blame for that?

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "I completely agree that the Dwyer sin bin had a major impact but who do you blame for that?'"


There’s no one to blame other than the player IMO. They know the rules.

There’s an argument to he had though that if a late tackle is going to be an automatic ban then its should be a red car offence at the time.

I 100% understand why they are wanting those tackles out of the game, it’s going yo be difficult though because a sport played as fast and hard as RL it is sometimes very hard for a player to pull out of a tackle, it will be s very contentious issue all season.

Fwiw I don’t think dwyer will cop a ban, it looked to me like dwyer couldn’t actually see clearly that the wire player had passed the ball has he was behind him when he tackled him.

I also don’t think Bentleys ban will be as bad as people think, the justification the ref gave was that it was with a clenched fist. It wasn’t. It was reckless and deserved a red.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "I completely agree that the Dwyer sin bin had a major impact but who do you blame for that?'"

I don’t attach blame to anyone. As a former player (amateur) failed to make the professional grade. Things happen in the heat of the moment. Thought the sin bin was harsh, although a penalty was justified. If that’s the benchmark I am ok with that ,but that law has to apply consistently throughout the season. I doubt that Will happen, but we will shall see. Looking at the expression on Holmes’ face I think he thought he was on a red card. I await with interest to view the next Dwyer type situation and see what the referees decision will be.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I have an impossible dream that one day we may be able to pick a team from a fit and healthy full squad.'"


This maybe hyperbole, but I genuinely think that the number of injuries in SL is one of the biggest issues the game in this country needs to address. Every team seems to have at least 4 or 5 of their first team players missing every week, lots of players hardly ever have a full pre season because they're recovering from a post season op. We need to do more to get players on the pitch as often as possible, simply dismissing it at 'injuries are part of the game' seems lazy to me.

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Quote: Jack Burton "This maybe hyperbole, but I genuinely think that the number of injuries in SL is one of the biggest issues the game in this country needs to address. Every team seems to have at least 4 or 5 of their first team players missing every week, lots of players hardly ever have a full pre season because they're recovering from a post season op. We need to do more to get players on the pitch as often as possible, simply dismissing it at 'injuries are part of the game' seems lazy to me.'"

Fair comment, probably just my imagination ,but along with Hull we seem to suffer over the last few years more injuries than most clubs.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I don’t attach blame to anyone. As a former player (amateur) failed to make the professional grade. Things happen in the heat of the moment. Thought the sin bin was harsh, although a penalty was justified. If that’s the benchmark I am ok with that ,but that law has to apply consistently throughout the season. I doubt that Will happen, but we will shall see. Looking at the expression on Holmes’ face I think he thought he was on a red card. I await with interest to view the next Dwyer type situation and see what the referees decision will be.'"


The only semblance of consistency will come from the panel. In almost 50 years of watching the game, I've never seen 100% consistency from referee to referee. Often it's been far less. My guess is that some on field decisions will continue to baffle all but that most late or high shots will cop a ban once it goes before the panel. Not perfect by any means but I think it's as good as we'll get.

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Quote: Clearwing "The only semblance of consistency will come from the panel. In almost 50 years of watching the game, I've never seen 100% consistency from referee to referee. Often it's been far less. My guess is that some on field decisions will continue to baffle all but that most late or high shots will cop a ban once it goes before the panel. Not perfect by any means but I think it's as good as we'll get.'"

Should think what’s driving this latest clamp down on head shots is the growing amount of claims regarding early onset dementia and dementia itself. Obviously as employers both the club’s and rugby league have to show a duty of care to players. Quite obviously in the past this hasn’t happened. Rugby Union has also embarked on a similar course of action. The one major difference is the Union brigade ,have quite rightly clamped down on shoulder hits more severely than league . Seemed to be a few shoulder’s hits yesterday.

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Which makes the lack of attention the match officials gave to Currys shoulder, knocking Fusitua out, even more baffling. If Dwyers 'late' hit is a yellow, Currys is a Yellow, at least. All these rules and cards are to protect players yet the most significant head impact in the whole game goes unpunished, shocking imo.

As already mentioned, no issues with Bentleys red, thats on him, his stupidity was rightly punished and he cost his team.

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What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.

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Quote: Frosties. "What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.'"

I agree to some extent.
How on earth can he stop in mid air unless he manages to do what others do when chasing down the kicker by giving them a bear hug type of thing.
Probably deserved the yellow in the current climate but should not receive a ban.
Bentley will get 4-5 games considering his previous.
Currie should be citied and get a couple of games.
Against Wigan I think our efforts Saturday plus injuries/suspensions probably means we will lose.
Walker
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Oledzki if fit
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Dwyer hopefully
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If Dwyer is banned and Oledzki injured we have a real problem.

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Which makes the lack of attention the match officials gave to Currys shoulder, knocking Fusitua out, even more baffling. If Dwyers 'late' hit is a yellow, Currys is a Yellow, at least. All these rules and cards are to protect players yet the most significant head impact in the whole game goes unpunished, shocking imo.

As already mentioned, no issues with Bentleys red, thats on him, his stupidity was rightly punished and he cost his team.'"

Completely agree with this mate.

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Quote: Frosties. "What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.'"


Exactly. Widdop was running across the line, Dwyer was chasing to tackle and when the ball was released, Dwyer was behind him and already getting ready to tackle. I'm all for stamping the late hits out the game (I got a bad whiplash from being hit after passing)....but....players have to tackle. The speed of the game means decisions are split second. There wasn't any malice in the tackle, wasn't massively mistimed. Just a bit late. When I saw the Bentley Red, I thought it harsh. But after watching it back it was a fair call. I still think the yellow was harsh for Dwyer

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I think a ban following a yellow is to act as a further deterrent. It isn’t a red card but they don’t want those tackles in the game so you will get a yellow and probably a ban for the next game. If you do that consistently then behaviours will change.
Those are the rules so follow them, it’s mindless to do it now.

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