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Quote: cheekydiddles "And unless I’m mistaken all out of contract at end of 2022?'"


Briscoe, Newman, Gale, Mellor, Dwyer, Martin, Holroyd, Thompson, Broadbent, Austin, Mustapha, O’Connor all OOC.

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Briscoe and Gale presumably retiring, Martin will be aiming for a new deal, Newman, Holroyd and Broadbent hopefully will get new deals announced early, Austin is playing for Gale's salary, Mustapha and O’Connor need to have big years to get renewed, Mellor and Thompson released with thanks for their efforts. Dwyer.... who knows.

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What it really highlights is how the depth in quality we've got for 2022 is really likely to be short lived given the salary cap.

We have star young players who will very soon need upgrades and quality established players like Austin and Fusitu'a are being paid by Leeds below their market values, for now. Those circumstances won't last long so it's a very big year for the club.

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There's a thread on the pies board about Sam Powell. It appears that a "quality hooker like Dwyer" is on the wish list of some of their fans. My first thought was to wonder what the hell Powell's been serving up but it then made me think that some of our "possibles" could actually land quite favourable deals elsewhere. Regardless, I think most with deals to shortly expire will go; I'm not sure we could get the incomers under the cap unless their contracts have been significantly backloaded.

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Quote: Clearwing "There's a thread on the pies board about Sam Powell. It appears that a "quality hooker like Dwyer" is on the wish list of some of their fans. My first thought was to wonder what the hell Powell's been serving up but it then made me think that some of our "possibles" could actually land quite favourable deals elsewhere. Regardless, I think most with deals to shortly expire will go; I'm not sure we could get the incomers under the cap unless their contracts have been significantly backloaded.'"

You can't backload contracts under the cap.

Dwyer is an interesting one. I really don't think it works when he starts but he is a great bench player and we know he can really change a game. How much value does someone like that have on the open market? Hard to say but I'm pretty sure it's more than he is currently on given he has shown more since signing the current deal (and notwithstanding the crisp packet comments).
Having said that he does seem to place a premium on a stable environment so we may be able to extend without a significant upgrade - if we decide that's the route we want to go down. I suspect Wigan fans are seeing his good bits and assuming he's an outstanding all-round hooker, which he definitively isn't. He's also a Wigan lad but I wouldn't advise anyone to join that club right now.

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As a Wakefield supporter looking from the outside.

I expect that Gale will leave, but even so that looks the strongest looking Leeds team that i have seen for a long time. You should definitely be right up there next season IMO.

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Quote: Shabino "Don't think Broadbrent starts yet, wouldn't be surprised to see Briscoe in there. Walker at full back for me, and Bentley to start ahead of Mellor....
Lots of options yeah!'"



So we are still a centre short , a metre making prop and a coach from being able to challenge Saints ( god help us if Briscoe is first choice centre )

How the hell Walker would get in before Myler is beyond belief

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Quote: ploinerrhino "So we are still a centre short , a metre making prop and a coach from being able to challenge Saints ( god help us if Briscoe is first choice centre )
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The prop is the only issue there. Like the club I've got a lot of faith in Sutcliffe being very, very good at centre next year - and very few people who have actually worked with him say Agar is anything other than an excellent coach.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "How the hell Walker would get in before Myler is beyond belief'"


Yeah I struggle with this too. He wasn't a top 4 full back before his injury, nor will he be on his return. And a side supposedly challenging for honours goes with its strongest spine. For me, that means Jack provides cover

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Walker's all class and is the future. If he stays fit he's a better runner and defender than Myler. Plus Myler is at the back end of his career now.
Myler will play loads anyway as Walker has sadly never managed a full season injury free....

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Although Myler will rightly start the season at full back, I will not be writing Walker off. If he comes back fitter and stronger, he can still be a great asset. Walker is much better under the high ball, better defensively and a much better runner than Myler: it is his passing game that he needs work on.

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "Although Myler will rightly start the season at full back, I will not be writing Walker off. If he comes back fitter and stronger, he can still be a great asset. Walker is much better under the high ball, better defensively and a much better runner than Myler

I suspect some of the negativity towards Walker from some stems from when it looked like he was leaving before he signed the new deal. He could potentially be the GB/England full back for many years if he can finally put his injury issues behind him. He's only 22 but has shown some real quality already, yet some have written him off and would be happy for him to leave.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "The prop is the only issue there. Like the club I've got a lot of faith in Sutcliffe being very, very good at centre next year - and very few people who have actually worked with him say Agar is anything other than an excellent coach.'"


I think Agar showed his limitations as a coach towards the end of the season. Honorable man no doubt but could you really see him coaching a Saints/Wigan/Warrington?

On Sutcliffe - I am with you he is underrated but he has yet to find a consistent spot in the team. What happens with Broadbent?

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Quote: ploinerrhino "So we are still a centre short , a metre making prop and a coach from being able to challenge Saints ( god help us if Briscoe is first choice centre )

How the hell Walker would get in before Myler is beyond belief'"
Not short a centre at all.Newman,Suttcliffe,Broadbent and Briscoe who has shown can fill in if needed. We also Hall and Edwards who is one of the best prospects in SL who should get some game time next season.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I think Agar showed his limitations as a coach towards the end of the season. Honorable man no doubt but could you really see him coaching a Saints/Wigan/Warrington?

On Sutcliffe - I am with you he is underrated but he has yet to find a consistent spot in the team. What happens with Broadbent?'"
Broadbent will get his chance as there is always injuries,its then up to him to keep his place.

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