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Quote: ant1 "With Agar in charge we will challenge for the playoffs again but never reach the GF.
He is at his coaching maximum now.
If Leeds are to become real contenders again we need a more creative coaching set up.
Who could fit the bill?
Haven't a scooby do!'"
Have a settle half back combination and another prop things maybe totally different. Our younger players will only get better. We are not that far off. Unless we can a significant up grade to Agar I don't see the point in changing coaches.

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I've thought about this before replying.
if we can get a significant upgrade on agar then go for it. but it would have to be a top coach. agar, for me would make a brilliant DOR.

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Quote: tad rhino "I've thought about this before replying.
if we can get a significant upgrade on agar then go for it. but it would have to be a top coach. agar, for me would make a brilliant DOR.'"
My thoughts also.

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Quote: christopher "Interesting but on the flip side many people ive spoken to (not corporate granted) have actually got a renewed energy and optimism for what’s to come, we have an outstanding group of youngsters coming through and we look in a good place, last night’s defeat doesn’t negate that'"


Yeah thats impression i get too. Think people can see the future is looking good but its a different thing from it looking good and it being good.

I think the job Agar has done has been very good. Nobody expected us to reach GF this year at full strength and weve been a long way short of that all year. I think Agar has dealt with the adversity, covids, suspensions very well all year.

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he has. he has resurrected this club. you cannot under estimate what he has done.
I'm simply not sure he can take us on from here

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Who?

It's alright saying it's time for a new coach - tell us who you want to take over Agar

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I know very little about the aussie game so I couldnt give you a name who is available. but look what Holbrook and Woolf have done. yes saints are a good side but they have improved every player

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Again agree with almost all above. Change for the sake of it is no good. Agar is a good coach and has been dealing with all shades of crazy since he took over

He’ll make a great DoR, he is a very good manager.

People were singing for Ian Watson all last year and he’s done nothing at Hudds. Careful what you wish for - Leeds need a real high quality upgrade, or stick with what we have while we’re still working on the squad.

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Agar stays for at least next season, unless we already have a really really good option to come in. Be a different side next season with the signing we have made. We do still lack another winger and prop, and still gave a little dead wood and under performers, but if we stay relatively injury free next year we can go one step forward than this year.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Again agree with almost all above. Change for the sake of it is no good. Agar is a good coach and has been dealing with all shades of crazy since he took over

He’ll make a great DoR, he is a very good manager.

People were singing for Ian Watson all last year and he’s done nothing at Hudds. Careful what you wish for - Leeds need a real high quality upgrade, or stick with what we have while we’re still working on the squad.'"

Double agree, one thing we have got under Agar is team spirit and plenty of determination and fight, we gave won games this year that we would not have won 2 years ago, and games we lost we would have folded. Last night for example, Saints would gave put 50-60 points on us 2 years ago.

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if we are getting rid of agar for having no ideas why would you put him above a person with ideas giving him kev's job creation role

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Whilst Agar has done well he's also shown he isn't the man to take us to the nrxt level imo.
Some of his selections & more importantly in game Squad Management have proved to be at best bizarre & at worst clueless.
The fact we chased Flannaghan shows the Club feel the same way , however as a DOR he'd be ideal.
Our next Coach has to be in the mould as a Tony Smith in that he'll be strong enough to drop & mive on has beens & never will bes & replace them with the best Youngsters but still have the nous to gel a quality Team together.
The Squad is still carrying too many passengers on & off the field.
The crisis unfolding at the EELS gives me hope we could offer Brad Arthur the job or alternatively the Walker Bros Justin Morgan etc.
I wouldnt mind keeping Long but also adding Danny Ward to the Assistent role. The conditiining Team needs dismantling & rebuilding & i also think Chev Walker & Jjb should be replaced.

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Impression I get is that the club's thinking mirrors that of many fans - Agar goes to DoR once a genuine upgrade can be recruited. Might even happen before next season.
Long should be given a year where he can work with fit halves. Beyond that it might make sense to bring fresh ideas.
JJB... I don't know enough to make my mind up. On one hand we've defended with determination and grit. At the same time we've often lacked organisation and coordination. Really the question we should ask is whether each of the three is the best we can afford and attract in their respective roles

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Quote: Clearwing "Impression I get is that the club's thinking mirrors that of many fans - Agar goes to DoR once a genuine upgrade can be recruited. Might even happen before next season.
Long should be given a year where he can work with fit halves. Beyond that it might make sense to bring fresh ideas.
JJB... I don't know enough to make my mind up. On one hand we've defended with determination and grit. At the same time we've often lacked organisation and coordination. Really the question we should ask is whether each of the three is the best we can afford and attract in their respective roles'"

Yep it’s hard to judge Long with the abject lack of quality he’s had to work with this year.

Having said that our skill levels at times have not been minimum standard even in my eyes.

JJB is brill motivationally. You look at Paul Wellens at Saints and I think he is real quality though. I don’t know enough - or Chev. There will be.a full review now.

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I'm not anti Agar.
He's done an excellent job taking us from relegation battle to a CC win and challenging for 4th & 5th.
But last night showed the next level.
Saints looked so much better organised and disciplined - two things we have lacked badly this year.
Not saying that's totally Agar's fault, but he decides what they work on all week.
He may well have reached his maximum level as a coach.
Agree he would make a great DOR as he has many connections.
Bring in a decent upcoming Aussie coach (like Woolf!!).
But can't see that happening for next season.

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