I actually think we might get a couple of unexpected wins over the next few weeks.

Our desire in defence and our pack will give us a chance but the attack has to stsrt doing more, I actually thought we looked OK in patches last night but the second half was shocking to have all that position and possession and only get one try.

I think if we could have got that try 5 minutes earlier we may have tsken it to extra time.

Think you may stand a good chance against us. We are missing a fair few and with the cup game the week after I doubt Powell will risk anyone. Mcshane came off for us against Wire at the weekend and we had Sene Lefao in the centres not to mention Evalds missing so our back line is awful at the mo. Had you been playing us last night I think you'd have scored a bucketful.

1. Myler
2. Tindall
3. Broadbent
4. Hurrell
5. Handley

6. Sutcliffe
7. Gale

8. Oledzki
9. Leeming
10. Prior
11. Mellor
12. Gannon
13. Tetevano

14. Dwyer
15. Vuniyawa
16. Donaldson
17. Thompson

Although Tindall has a lot to learn defensively, he deserves a chance following the Briscoe's efforts. He should add a bit of speed to the side also.

If Alex Sutcliffe or Newman were fit, I would be playing them at centre ahead of Hurrell.

Likewise, as soon as McLelland or Lui are fit, they would come straight in for Sutcliffe who I would then move to centre.

Hopefully Holroyd due back soon and O'Connor can consider himself unlucky to miss out.

I understand what you are saying, but they are not playing for Agar. He comes out with the same excuses every week, we are playing dumb rugby. You can only coach players if they want to be coached, last night suggested they wasn't being coached, We need someone like JC in charge because at the moment we need to some kind of miracle for the next three games.

You know you are struggling when Cas fans are being kind to you.

Did you have a word with GH last night? Any news on the search for a six?

A team not playing for a coach doesnt put in the effort we are putting in every week. I dont thinl anyone can question the commitnent to the cause again last night. Though i admit there are things to question.

Again I'm looking forward to this one, there'll be a fair bit of passion in it I think.

Agree with Christopher and some others above: changing coach now won't help anything unless we're forced into it. I really can't see us getting dragged too far into relegation territory but we can't afford to be complacent obviously.

Agar has done a really good job in parts. I think he needs better players who can create something on the field - he's not coaching players to drop the ball and make brain explosion decisions. Personally there are too many variables in the mix to identify one area as The Thing... on the whole the side has played with commitment under Agar since he took over. We're pretty tough but we just don't have the cutting edge.

Anyone else got a ticket?

Best not wear my Leeds shirt

There are times when it feels like a proper performance is almost within grasp - frustrating as f*** waiting for it to happen though.

I agree the players are trying their hardest for Agar. But I'm not sure those efforts are being particularly well directed.

Hull was the first game we've had a credible first team out, and we're still missing a starting centre, fullback and stand off.

It's frustrating. We're not where we should be at this stage. It's fair that we have been knackered by an injury crisis running even through pre-season this year though, and we're now playing catch-up.

I don't think we have done well enough, don't get me wrong - some of our last tackle plays without Gale cycled between non-existent and laughable and that's not good enough for full-time pros at this level.

We will learn more over the next few weeks if, fingers crossed, we can keep the squad generally healthy.

By the time he returned to the suite last night people was leaving, it did not help because it was a Sunday evening. Don’t worry, I will speak to him. He is approachable and will discuss things if the criticism is constructive.
He is aware of the performances and issues with what is happening. Deep down he is a genuine bloke both being a director and a supporter.
I will reply after the next home game.

What do people want him to say? I suspect he'll say we are looking fit the right player/s
and we're in the market when they are available.....!

Tickets on sale as normal tomorrow rather than the double header.

I buy what you are saying, if the effort is there and we are not winning games, then we are not good enough. That is the simple answer with two wins this season. No one can keep defending the same performance week in week out. Plenty of effort again, but !!!
The young players have been brilliant but as soon as others are fit these players are dropped for more experience.
We are some 4 years into rebuilding a team. We are still giving contracts to players who everyone on here are saying they should not be playing. 4 years we still have not got the spine of the team right. How many years does it take to build the spine of the team, instead we continue to give contracts to the Briscoes, Leeming, Dwyer, Mellor and others. We cannot simply spend the same money twice, we have a cap and continuing to give out contracts to some players is holding this club back. You give a two year contract you cannot move him out for two years. That’s it, end of story.
Last night our defence was shocking for the tries we conceded, our players were left grabbing air. Our players were falling out with each other. Leeming wasn’t best pleased with Gale, Gale is getting no service. How good are Leeming and Mellor, Huddersfield are a better team without them, they took the points against us.
Effort wins you nothing if the players are not good enough, dropping balls, missing tackles etc, 4 years into rebuild and we are still talking about replacing players who recently joined us. If we are saying the players are good enough and the effort is there then the problem is the coach .
You cannot have it both ways,