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Quote: The Phantom Horseman "This might surprise people but Fev's players in interviews during lockdown were glowing in their praise of Ferres for his impact off the field, very much a leader and plenty of them see him as a future coach. There's no way he would have been brought in unless Webster thought he could make a positive impact. He's clearly not a SL-level player these days but in a strange year such as this he could probably fill in for a game or two and as I say i think he'll have been brought in as much for his veteran experience off the field.

Harrison is Karl's son and is a tall, rangy forward who has done a good job for Fev both at edge back row and in the middle. He's come on a lot since we signed him from Batley, it's hard to say how well he'll go in SL because there's such a gap between being a good Championship player and being a SL starter but I bet he won't let you down. He's the type of player that tends to intrigue SL coaches because of his height (see Ormondroyd, but Harrison is a better player than Ormondroyd).

Yes Brad Day wouldn't be ready to play yet following his injury, I agree that he's arguably the best back row in the Championship, he's tremendously strong but probably just lacks the size SL teams are looking for in an edge back row. Day's probably the better player of the two at the moment but Harrison has more potential to develop into a SL player, if that makes sense.

Anyway, after years of reading on forums that Fev are too dependent on Leeds to be considered as a potential SL team, it's nice to see the boot is on the other foot!'"

Yeah i see where your coming from on Harrisons potential over Day, bit younger and with the right frame to put some good size on. Days size is fine though, he's similir size to Stevie Ward or Rhyse Martin and he's explosive...Would love to of seen how he'd go in SL and looking forward to how Harrison does with his chance.

On Ferres, he's a liability on the field, what he's like off it is all well and good, but his standards on the pitch are woeful. We'v got ex player leaders all over the club and right through our coaching staff, we shouldnt need another, especially a player who does his best work off the pitch apparently.

Im not going out my way to be negative and i know its short term, but he's the last player we should be bringing back imo, im all for younger lads with potential like Harrison getting there shot, not a mid 30's player that was useless the first time and nearly everyone couldnt wait to get rid of.

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Fantastic news to bring Brett back into the fold. Was a real leader on the field, always worked hard and did the tough stuff without getting the plaudits from the fans - happy to have him back at the club.

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Quote: MrPotatoHead "Fantastic news to bring Brett back into the fold. Was a real leader on the field, always worked hard and did the tough stuff without getting the plaudits from the fans - happy to have him back at the club.'"


I think after yesterdays win the club have decided to bring him back to give some people something to complain about again.

Theyve taken the opportunity with relish.

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Quote: MrPotatoHead "Fantastic news to bring Brett back into the fold. Was a real leader on the field, always worked hard and did the tough stuff without getting the plaudits from the fans - happy to have him back at the club.'"


Happy to give Harrison' a go but Ferres? Really? Nooooooooo

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It just seems silly to do this on the very same day aswell, when Hull FC showed exactly what can be gained by doing the right thing.

How poop were they previously. Draft in a host of energetic youngsters, at the expense of so called experience, and bang.

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I guess the key is where they sit in the pecking order. If they are ahead of the youngsters then it's a bad move. If it's as cover for the youngsters, or to allow the youngsters to be brought in gradually then it may not be a bad move.

It's certainly a strange one.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "I think after yesterdays win the club have decided to bring him back to give some people something to complain about again.

Theyve taken the opportunity with relish.'"

Thats not it though Marty, Ferres is old, useless, a penaltymachine and full of errors imo. Not about wanting somthing to complain about. If you think he's better than that and its a good thing he's back, great, i disagree, just different opinions. For me, he's the last player id be bringing back, in any capacity. Happy Harrisons getting his chance which i know dosnt fit the wanting 'somthing to complain about' label, but he's the profile of player i like to see getting a chance...happy with that one.

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The club has to realise that in defeats you can get victories. We lost against Wigan 2 week ago but youngsters Holroyd, McLelland, Newman, Oledski etc got valuable minutes in their development. Minutes that are vital for the club going forward.

Remains to be seen how long these 2 loanees play but they could take away minutes from Walters, Muizz, O'Connor who between them could easily cover the next month though i suspect both loanees have been brought in to cover prop rather than back row.

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Obviously short term thinking with these signings. Have the club ensured our young squad players they'll be guaranteed game time later in the season? Once the mid week games kick in.

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Ferres says he might not even play but part of his role is to help the younger players develop, by all accounts this is something he’s really good at. Might not be the daft move every one thinks it is

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If we need a loan signing of a player to help our young players develop, then theres something seriously wrong with our coaching set-up.

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "If we need a loan signing of a player to help our young players develop, then theres something seriously wrong with our coaching set-up.'"


Who’s said we need it? It’s more likely using the fact that Fev aren’t playing so taking advantage of the opportunity that’s available.

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Quote: christopher "Who’s said we need it? It’s more likely using the fact that Fev aren’t playing so taking advantage of the opportunity that’s available.'"

You said bringing him in might not be as daft a move as some are making out because he's going to work with our youngsters...If we dont need it then whys it a positive that he's coming in to do it?

Bringing a player in to do something ,off the field, that we dont need is still a daft move and If we do need it, then it dosnt say much for our coaching staff that a loan player can offer our youngsters something they cant.

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "You said bringing him in might not be as daft a move as some are making out because he's going to work with our youngsters...If we dont need it then whys it a positive that he's coming in to do it?

Bringing a player in to do something ,off the field, that we dont need is still a daft move and If we do need it, then it dosnt say much for our coaching staff that a loan player can offer our youngsters something they cant.'"


Because you’re looking at it in very black and white terms, just because hes been brought in doesn’t mean there’s a need, it could simply be that the opportunity has arrived because of Fevs situation not that there is a pressing need or something wrong with the coaching set up.

For there to be a positive outcome doesn’t mean there was a negative to begin with.

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