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All we need is to re sign Ferries and the jobs done.

I get all the comparisons to the early 2000s but I'd say a better comparison is 97 when GH came in. We had a team full of rubbish and signing Harris and then Murray as coach turned it around.

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Quote: christopher "I don't give a monkeys about his CV, I care about what he can do for us next season and I'll judge him on that.'"


I will also judge him on next season, but I'll judge those who appoint him based on his qualifications for being Leeds coach in the first place. They (GH and KS) have together got a lot wrong in the last few years in terms of judgement, I sincerely hope this isn't another case of that in a year's time.

At best I see it that we will tread water for a year, waiting for some more players to go off contract, and hoping that we can integrate some more promising kids, but the difficulty is that integrating kids into a poorly playing team (like we have had this year) is a very hard task.

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I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.'"

Agree with all the above.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.'"


Totally agree.

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Quote: Brodie123 " Lets hope we end up with a solid number 2.'"

I haven't had one of those for a while. It's me pancreas.

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Quote: christopher "I don't give a monkeys about his CV, I care about what he can do for us next season and I'll judge him on that.'"

You cant keep doing the same things & expect different results i.e Hull =failed=sacked Wakey= failed=sacked Wire=Failed=Sacked you might not give s monkeys about his CV but it proves NO MATTER where he is or who employs him he FAILS.
Of course if you are happy to join the happy clappers & accept any polished turd good for you just remember the warning signs were all there when he gets the boot by june.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "You cant keep doing the same things & expect different results i.e Hull


Just as a point of order if you're going to shout, Agar wasn't sacked at Hull, Wakefield or Warrington.

I'm happy to give him a chance and see how it goes next season, I try not to look at things so negatively all the time, in the end it gets you nowhere. If he is gone by June, well done I'm sure you'll take a lot of pleasure in being proved correct.

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Quote: christopher "Just as a point of order if you're going to shout, Agar wasn't sacked at Hull, Wakefield or Warrington.

I'm happy to give him a chance and see how it goes next season, I try not to look at things so negatively all the time, in the end it gets you nowhere. If he is gone by June, well done I'm sure you'll take a lot of pleasure in being proved correct.'"

Mutual consent =pr BS for sacked.
Why would i take pleasure in seeing us f#&k about for another 6 months with a chancer only to see him sacked so we,'re back to square one afyer Furner left?
F'all to do with taking pleasure or being proved right its watmsting time on a nobody who isnt worthy of that job.
We have the best batch of potential jnrs in years they need Coaching & nurtering into 1st Team regulars by a quality Coach who can do that whikst he gels the 1st team squad & gets the best out of them.
Agar cant & never has done that whats so hard to grasp?
Whether you like his CV or not it shows failure everywhere he's been & not one sign that he's good enough or ready for one of the biggest jobs in SL.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Mutual consent

He didn’t leave by Mutual consent either, look I understand you and many others don’t think he’s the right man for the job but no need to rewrite history to try prove a point.

You’re writing him off, which again is up to you I’m just saying lets see how it goes, after all you’ve got no choice.

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Don't forget there are a team of coaches behind the scenes, not just the head coach. Day to day Rob Burrow will have the most influence on the juniors.

Agar was about right in the presser today. He thinks there's lots of improvement in the current squad - well we'll see next year. If we're going to fare much better we are going to need another signing or two.

I would be surprised if we didn't address 7 for 2020, I really don't think Agar is a fan of Myler.

Whether we play Gale or McLelland there, we'll get a better kicking game out of the change.

I strongly suspect that we will be treading water with a few contracted players next year that we can't shift. We should do okay next year but whoever is coach, our young players will make mistakes or sometimes get physically dominated.

Newman has let a few in this year but he'll learn and develop yet. Walker and Oledzki need to work on their game too. I'm sure all three will be improved for next year.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Mutual consent GH and TS have seen him working with squad day in day out and they think different.If he was has crap as you make out why would they even consider him.I'll take their opinon on him over you and anyone else on this board.

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Quote: fanstanningley "GH and TS have seen him working with squad day in day out and they think different.If he was has crap as you make out why would they even consider him.I'll take their opinon on him over you and anyone else on this board.'"

First of all Joe Vickery he was garbage GH happily gave him a deal he did it with Beu Falloon etc etc they arent perfect.
Good for you this is the same KS who did the big speech about SC been sat in the stands ,squad quality etc then made Ferres captain signed Jordan Thompson kept Jjb & a 2yr out of date Ablett on a 2 year deal.
Signed Crosby on a 3yr deal knowing he was injured brought in Albert Luke Briscoe & sacked Furner without a replacement so winged it with Agar.
Now whatever they may or may not seen we've all seen what happens on matchday we all know whats happened elsewhere on matchdays nothing whatsoever points him to him been good enough.
Heres a big clue he's done naff all anywhere before he's got it because the plsyers like him he's a yes man for Sinfield & GH's brother in law.

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Quote: fanstanningley "GH and TS have seen him working with squad day in day out and they think different.If he was has crap as you make out why would they even consider him.I'll take their opinon on him over you and anyone else on this board.'"


GH wouldn’t have seen no such thing. He is not involved with the players, and certainly doesn’t attend training. It was also GH who continued to back the previous useless lump we had despite the rest of his team telling him to get rid. Luckily we managed to scrape away from relegation as a result, only to repeat it again this year through his wrong choices.

You are very very generous to take Hetheringtons opinion over anyone these days.

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