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| Didn't see Sinfield's interview but if the club's rotten, where are the big and essential decisions that such a scenario would require? Other than sacking Furner and making the odd decent signing with plenty more questionable ones he appears to have done nowt to put matters right. If it was rotten when he took up the reins then I see no reason why it wouldn't still be now.
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| I'm gobsmacked really. He says we need stability so why sack Furner and not get a move on with replacing him with a top class coach?!!? If he thinks agar can turn it round hes sadly mistaken and is doomed for failure
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| Quote: Trebor1 "I'm gobsmacked really. He says we need stability so why sack Furner and not get a move on with replacing him with a top class coach?!!? If he thinks agar can turn it round hes sadly mistaken and is doomed for failure'"
The rumours will come out soon about Furners sacking .It seems strange to me that a coach uprooting a d travelling with his family halfway round the world expecting to be here for 3 years and gets the sack after 14 games for not immediately getting results out of a team that has been poor long before he came . The Rotten that the DOR refers to did he expect Furner to rectify it after 14 games ?
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "The rumours will come out soon about Furners sacking .It seems strange to me that a coach uprooting a d travelling with his family halfway round the world expecting to be here for 3 years and gets the sack after 14 games for not immediately getting results out of a team that has been poor long before he came . The Rotten that the DOR refers to did he expect Furner to rectify it after 14 games ?'"
Utterly bizarre it really is. Totally contradictory
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| From what I hear Furner’s position was no longer tenable. Think Brian Clough and you’re not far off. Put too many noses out of joint.
It’s quite clear to me what the problem is. The success since 2004 was built on a generation of players that hasn’t been replaced. Many of them were leaders. Now they’ve all gone. The players left are the bit part players who enjoyed success off the back of those greats that have gone. They’re not capable of doing what the likes of Sinfield, Peacock, McGuire etc did. You have a player as captain who really shouldn’t be expected to carry the team and recover from a serious injury but there are no other obvious leaders.
You’ve blown salary cap on players that are either injury prone (Hurrell), mediocre (Merrin) or just plain poor (Lolohea).
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| Got to be honest, I took a different view of that interview. I don’t think Sinfield wanted rid of Furner, and this has come from above him. It sounded like he didn’t want to work this way himself. Infact, I think his responses showed a lot of maturity, in biting his tongue.
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| Quote: christopher "This, the interview was an honest one IMO'"
Agree it was honest but also highlighted how far out of his depth he is.
Absolutely shocking to tell job applicants the Club are 100% behind Agar when we need a Quality Coach and his own Staff asap.
It's ok saying it was Rotten when he arrived but adding to the Disease isn't helping either he needs to up his game or go.
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| Sinfield was as honest has he could be.Make no mistake GH is still in charge and knows things have been going rapidly downhill since 2016.
He feeds a fall guy and we know who it is !!
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Agree it was honest but also highlighted how far out of his depth he is.
Absolutely shocking to tell job applicants the Club are 100% behind Agar when we need a Quality Coach and his own Staff asap.
Again what do you expect him to say, ‘we don’t think Agar can do the job so we need someone ASAP’ that would be a ridiculous message to Agar who wether we quickly get a coach or not will be coaching them fir a bit.
Do you really think the only communication he has had with job applicants is through a pre match interview on sky?
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| I would love to know how your salary cap is spread between your squad of players. I thought during the very first game of the season that your squad felt somewhat imbalanced and I still think that now.
There were rumours at one stage that players were unhappy with the disparity in salaries - could that be the cause of some of the attitude problems we're seeing at the minute?
Tui seems to be copping the most flak from the supporters but Merrin has been a letdown for me and he had another poor game again last night. Conceding penalties for dissent is criminal but to come from a player of his stature, someone who should be guiding the youngsters, is really disappointing.
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| Sinfield knows a lot more than hes letting on too,when asked how did such a well run club descend to this? He replied not for me to say.
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| Quote: christopher "Again what do you expect him to say, ‘we don’t think Agar can do the job so we need someone ASAP’ that would be a ridiculous message to Agar who wether we quickly get a coach or not will be coaching them fir a bit.
Do you really think the only communication he has had with job applicants is through a pre match interview on sky?'"
I expect a matter of urgency in sorting the mess out he helped create.
we should have a Coach by now simple as that and all he had to say was that we are interviewing candidates or we've created a short list anything to show that we are making some sort of progress not the dull rudderless "we are 100%" behind Agar who isn't good enough to coach our u15's.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "I expect a matter of urgency in sorting the mess out he helped create.
we should have a Coach by now simple as that and all he had to say was that we are interviewing candidates or we've created a short list anything to show that we are making some sort of progress not the dull rudderless "we are 100%" behind Agar who isn't good enough to coach our u15's.'"
It’s not ‘as simple as that’ though is it, you think we should have rushed through interviewing and appointing a head coach within two weeks?
We have no idea who the club has or hasn’t spoken to, and the management are totally right giving Agar 100% support until the new coach is found
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| Quote: christopher "Again what do you expect him to say, ‘we don’t think Agar can do the job so we need someone ASAP’ that would be a ridiculous message to Agar who wether we quickly get a coach or not will be coaching them fir a bit.
Do you really think the only communication he has had with job applicants is through a pre match interview on sky?'"
What I've inferred (and it is just that) from Agar's comments in the last two weeks is that he doesn't even want the job long-term and that he was happy doing the role he was originally here to do.
I get the impression he'd be delighted to hear Sinfield say "we've got several interviews lined up next week".
Sinfield is pretty media-savvy by typical RL standards but that interview was poor from him. He took far too much issue with some predictable, obvious but completely fair lines of questioning from Carney that he really should have been able to prepare for and bat away. He didn't come across well at all.
He was clearly frustrated, clearly didn't want to be there and if it was an attempt by Sinfield / Hetherington to stage-manage and put a veneer on the crisis, it backfired massively.
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| Recruitment has been poor since the start of the decade. Winning two GF's from 5th when our greats stepped up and one single excellent 2015 season can easily mask over these shortcomings but the warning signs have been there for many a year.
If there are bad eggs get rid asap. I would rather see a team full of kids fighting for the badge and getting beat over a bunch of whingers happy to just pick up their pay check and get humiliated every week in the pathetic manor they are right now.
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