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Gotcha if you read my post GH is clearly mentioned and is just as much if not more to blame.
Also it was Sinfield who retained Jjb and Ablett that's self inflicted and adding to the problems we see now.
Yes no one doubts he couldn't do it "overnight" but the brutal honesty is thus far the job has proven way too big for him imo.

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Quote: tad rhino "hetherington took over around 96 and it took 8 years to turn it around. sinfield has had around 8 months.'"

GH Took over the whole club operation with zero foundations to build on and btw he has done a magnificent job.
However we have a blueprint that works especially within the RL side of it but it has been ignored both by GH and now KS is here and has zero idea how to turn it around.
If we are questioning GH which is fair to do so imo then KS is a target also.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Gotcha if you read my post GH is clearly mentioned and is just as much if not more to blame.
Also it was Sinfield who retained Jjb and Ablett that's self inflicted and adding to the problems we see now.
Yes no one doubts he couldn't do it "overnight" but the brutal honesty is thus far the job has proven way too big for him imo.'"


So what would you like to happen? GH to step down, Sinfield get the sack? Most of the squad sacked?

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Quote: christopher "So what would you like to happen? GH to step down, Sinfield get the sack? Most of the squad sacked?'"


Lol. Quite ridiculous isn't it

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Was it KS decision to sign that tub of lard in the 6 shirt big money long term? Whoever that was had a shocker.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Was it KS decision to sign that tub of lard in the 6 shirt big money long term? Whoever that was had a shocker.'"


No, we have been through that previously. Deal done previous, then held back announcement.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Was it KS decision to sign that tub of lard in the 6 shirt big money long term? Whoever that was had a shocker.'"

I think that was GH and done pre Sinfield I know there is a link to BBC where KS talks about signing a 23 year old international etc, but my recollection is we signed him before Sinfield returned.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



The players now need lifting for the Cas match their confidence must be shot.

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Whilst I agree their confidence must be low, there’s a big part of me thinking “boo frikking hoo”. They got themselves into this mess, molly cuddling them will only prolong the problems. The only thing Agar said that I agree with is that they need to roll their sleeves up and work their way out of it.

Feeling sorry for themselves will only lead to relegation...

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give 4 or 5 kids a go. leave the so called big names in the stands

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Quote: Gotcha "No, we have been through that previously. Deal done previous, then held back announcement.'"


Have you? Sorry for not being present at that meeting.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "I think that was GH and done pre Sinfield I know there is a link to BBC where KS talks about signing a 23 year old international etc, but my recollection is we signed him before Sinfield returned.'"


Fair enough, i knew it was sorted well before Furner arrived but that's it.

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Quote: tad rhino "give 4 or 5 kids a go. leave the so called big names in the stands'"


I agree. Several of those in blue and amber at the minute look like they don't care and are just happy to pick up the cheque and go through the motions.

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KS won't be sacked , you can't keep sacking employees for the sake of it, he is however under tremendous pressure to put right some of the mistakes he has made. This however does not mean he was the right man for the job, what was crying out for someone with lots of experience like a Tony Smith we ended up with an apprentice. While his appointment may have been easier in a successful team, it's been a terrible appointment with this team. We are where we are, so if he is true to his word he has a lot to deliver on a quick learning curve because if we don't improve then the boo boys will be out in force at every game. Leeds people will always give support to a team that try's, but they won't stand to watch a team of lazy buggers who are only interested in picking up their pay cheques

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Quote: christopher "So what would you like to happen? GH to step down, Sinfield get the sack? Most of the squad sacked?'"

How about we stop re-signing has beens and never wil bes ,stop recruiting fdrom poundland ,employ a Quality Coach and give him free reign to employ his own staff and target his own palyers.
Relaese as much dross as possible and finally make EVERYONE who has contributed to this bag o sh*#* culpable.
Either way it needs sorting and no amount of "it takes time" get behind the team" or pointless sounbites from the Hierachy will improve it.

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