That's a fair point.

Big Mac has also taken flack off myself but that sky interview WOW! How passionate is the guy in Leeds rhinos. Onto next week I don't see how we can over turn the recent Cas results and win but the man deserves plaudits for the way people have questioned him whenever we don't like a certain result. FWIW whatever next week brings it should bring down the curtain for his rhinos tenure as i feel it needs freshening up. If it does a BIG thank you Brian.

Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/

Just seen the trailer for the "As good as it gets" documentary film (actually first I'd heard about it). Wonder if that might finally convert a few BMac haters... www.thecitytalking.com/as-good-as-it-gets/

Ditto !

< edit > actually i've been called most of those, and more, for years. Sucks to be a Leeds fan on Southstander.

Glad to see a thread like this. I've always been in the Mac camp. Still am.

Supporters of other teams must think Leeds fans are mad for wanting McDermott out given the success we have had under him. It really is bizarre how unpopular he is.

Ive never been a huge McDermott out man but i must admit ive called for change this season saying his time was up and yet here we are at the last dance again.

Hes a polarising figure thats for sure and i think he likes that. He rarely engages with fans but thats just his way. It hard at this moment in time to argue with his record thats without doubt.

Firstly, having witnessed how emotional he was after the game, no-one could possibly doubt how much he cares about the club, the players and achieving the overall collective goal. In my opinion, the more you care, the more successful you will be.

I am not his greatest fan as a coach but I have never seen the need to attack him personally and to vilify him. To those that have, shame on you, because he is clearly a genuinely decent person.

The results over the last few years have been at best inconsistent and, at worst, woeful. Furthermore, given the players he has had at his disposal, the number of truly convincing performances achieved during his tenure has been disappointing. However, you cannot argue with results and he has achieved in that department.

maybe McD was choked up because he had just been told the Grand final will be his last game as coach of the Rhino's? Just putting it out there

Nah he has too much of an ego that he'd have to have it announced so thy can be all the fanfare to go with it like the departures of the players.

I'd go with Ronzy's view, but add that nobody can take away the fact that in terms of results he's the most successful coach we've ever had. I've always argued that. I do think that last year was awful and as head coach he needs to shoulder a lot of responsibility for that, but I'd say this year even without reaching the GF we've done as well as could have been expected.

I wonder how he, Tony Smith et al will be viewed in 20 or 30 years?

I would agree with this view.

As an outsider looking in, he has done very well with Leeds this year.

I've admired him as a bloke for a while. I have been at events where he was dragged up on stage, unplanned, asked difficult questions, & answered impressively & with great humility. He obviously cares deeply about the club & players. I think his man management is a great strength. I just don't think he is a top level coach.

I don't think he needs to be a top level coach as long as his backroom staff are. I think he has developed a core at Leeds and the time is now for the team to move forward. I do believe we have a great chance on Sat but it will be down to who keeps their nerve and hopefully Mcguire does not react when things go against us.

Next year is one for development and bedding in the newbies so I am not expecting much. However, I do think Mcd will put the systems in place for another successful year in 2019.

McD is simply a man who has great man management skills, you can see that with the respect he gains from the players, he just needs to keep hold of the coaching team, maybe get a better attacking and kicking coach and we will continue to win the silverware.