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I'd start with Keinhorst. Yes he's lacking match fitness but his fitness levels should still be good as it was a single finger injured and he's still been able to run, bike work and other general fitness work so it's not like he's only just returned to running after a knee/hamstring/groin injury.

It'd also free Ward up to play 2nd row, with a 5 day turnaround and facing a Hull side whose strength is their pack then need to get him back in the forwards to help out and not rely on Ablett and especially JJB on a short turnaround doing massive stints in the 2nd row. Start Ward and Ablett and bring JJB on during the 1st half and rotate the 2nd rowers well for a change.

If Keinhorst is struggling 2nd half then we can revert Ward to centre or Moon with Lilley coming on to HB.

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Quote: batleyrhino "I suppose much of my point is actually about next year, when a number of those players probably won't be here. If McGuire is also moving on, there is a big chunk of salary cap coming free even after signing Myler. It's all well and good saying Delaney would be in the 17 if fit, problem is he hardly ever is. I'd be looking to find a way to release him if we could.

I just don't think that we are going to be missing much as Golding and Keinhorst will likely play.'"


I agree regarding Golding and Keinhorst but I suppose that is the idea of having a better quality all round squad. Delaney has was putting in some decent performances before his last injury. But you would still rather go into a game with your first choices.

Just the other week some were writing off Mags and JJB yet against Salford they both showed once again they still have what it takes.

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I would go with Ward and Keinhorst in the centres and Lilley on the bench. Perhaps give Golding another week off as hamstrings need time and Briscoe's two tries will have given him some confidence.

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Quote: PrinterThe "I'd start with Keinhorst. Yes he's lacking match fitness but his fitness levels should still be good as it was a single finger injured and he's still been able to run, bike work and other general fitness work so it's not like he's only just returned to running after a knee/hamstring/groin injury.

It'd also free Ward up to play 2nd row, with a 5 day turnaround and facing a Hull side whose strength is their pack then need to get him back in the forwards to help out and not rely on Ablett and especially JJB on a short turnaround doing massive stints in the 2nd row. Start Ward and Ablett and bring JJB on during the 1st half and rotate the 2nd rowers well for a change.

If Keinhorst is struggling 2nd half then we can revert Ward to centre or Moon with Lilley coming on to HB.'"


Keinhorst hasn't done anything with his hand for 12 weeks Mac said. No catching, passing, not involved with learning new calls/ plays. There's no way he can come into the centre yet. If Golding is fit I can see Hall going to centre. If Golding isn't fit, it's Moon at 4.

JJB and Ablett will definitely start because Mac doesn't drop them.

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I think Delaney is on a long contract. He really needs to have a think about his quality of life in later years now I think. Always gives 100% for us though.

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Keinhorst hasn't done anything with his hand for 12 weeks Mac said. No catching, passing, not involved with learning new calls/ plays. There's no way he can come into the centre yet. If Golding is fit I can see Hall going to centre. If Golding isn't fit, it's Moon at 4.

JJB and Ablett will definitely start because Mac doesn't drop them.'"


Would you drop JJB?

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Keinhorst hasn't done anything with his hand for 12 weeks Mac said. No catching, passing, not involved with learning new calls/ plays. There's no way he can come into the centre yet. If Golding is fit I can see Hall going to centre. If Golding isn't fit, it's Moon at 4.

JJB and Ablett will definitely start because Mac doesn't drop them.'"


Keinhorst will have been back in training for over a week by Friday's game, that should be fine wrt to play calls. He might not have been able to participate physically previously but he'll still know what the teams being doing and Lilley came back to Leeds and only had a few days before the Saints game and Segeyaro came off a plane and soon into action that week in more key positions than centre wrt play calls so that isn't a issue.

With the catching and passing again he'll have a weeks training under him and yeah he'll be a bit rusty but he will be if he starts from the bench.

Moon has done too well at HB to move him and going to centre limits him to an certain area of the field. The big Hull forwards certainly wouldn't prefer facing his footwork compared to Lilley and McGuire. I agree JJB and Ablett probably will start but really one of them shouldn't. We have 3 good 2nd rowers available this week including Ward, start two bring one off the bench and rotate wisely because it's one of Hull's strong positions.

Given we aren't exactly the best at providing our three quarters with loads of ball then Ward and Moon are too good and important not to see more ball further infield.

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Is the game on tv?

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no. cas v Salford I think

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Quote: tad rhino "no. cas v Salford I think'"


Yes, that's correct just seen it advertised on Sky.
The ref will be Robert Hicks.
When will the schedule for the final fixtures be available?

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Is Watkins definitely out?

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Quote: Old Feller "Yes, that's correct just seen it advertised on Sky.
The ref will be Robert Hicks.
When will the schedule for the final fixtures be available?'"


Probably two weeks today. Wakey vs Saints finish the regular season next Sunday so expect the fixtures to be sorted in the following 48 hours.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Would you drop JJB?'"


No I wouldn't. I was just making the point that he and Ablett will definitely start. However, I would drop Ablett. I didn't see the Salford game but he had a shocker against Saints. But I think Mac will go with Ward at centre until Sutty/Keinhorst are ready, meaning the back row picks itself regardless of form.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Is Watkins definitely out?'"


Failed the head test didn't he during your game against Salford, which dictates, he cannot play this week (unless you were playing the Sunday)

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