Massive overreaction. If Leeds had managed to complete a few more sets we could easily have won; McDermott's comments before the game (uncharacteristically) helped to inspire the opposition. Not miles away from the top club for what was always going to be a transitional season for us.

I'd agree the game was there for the taking; point is, we didn't complete the sets and never looked capable of taking it. And, turning your point around, had Cas played to their potential, how many do you think they might have run in?

No mention of Ryan Hall? He looked like a slow, overweight second rower last night playing out of position. Well past sell by date.

weird that a player playing out of position looked like he was playing out of position
may be if we didnt have injuries to our full back and centre he could play back on the wing

wrong. moon or Sutcliffe could have played centre.
fact is the coach chose to play hall there. great decision too. didn't even have the brains to change it mid game either

how is it wrong?
if Sutcliffe or Moon play centre, who plays fullback or halfback? Burrows out as well dont forget.
Jack Walker? Precocious talent but too lightweight at the minute imho, especially with the conditions as they were last night

Will we still be saying this in 5 years' time? It seems to me "transitional season" is becoming a marvellously convenient euphemism for "mediocrity". Exactly how many "transitional seasons" are we supposed to stomach? Are we not one of, if not THE, top-earning clubs in SL?

We have been steadily declining as a squad since 2010. SL has been declining with us, particularly at the very top so we have still been able to pick up trophies during the Mac era. Comparing this squad now with that 2010 one, that won nothing BTW, tells you all you need to know.

I don't really see a transition as such, just us bringing in average or worse players than went before or player getting older with no real apparent successor in key positions yet. The signing of the likes of Myler if true says it all.

I really do fear where is going long term at the minute and when JJB, Burrow, McGuire, Ablett, Hall have done, which isn't too far away, what we will become.

are we not in the semi finals of the cup, and top 4 in the league? you call that mediocrity in a salary capped sport?

it was wrong because it didn't work and he wasn't capable of changing it. let's face it walker couldn't have done worse than Sutcliffe

Next years starting 17(assuming reorts of who we are signing are correct)!

Golding
Keinhorst
Watkins
Moon
Hall
Myler
Walker/Lilley
Galloway
Parcell
Garbutt
Ablett
Ward
Cahill

Cuthbertson
Oledski
Burrow
Singleton/Mullally


Walker no younger than Mags when he first played and shows the same potential need to give him a shot,Oledzki future star no doubts,play him.
Like Mcdermott to be honest not sure but he needs to have a clear out and give some of the youngsters a shot.

I think mac has run his course. done a brilliant job 90% of the time but a fresh voice and ideas are needed. won't happen though

No way I would have keinhorst on the wing he's an out and out centre, Briscoe will be with us next year and even if we do decide to move him on would should be signing a replacement not putting Keinhorst in there when he is more effective at centre.

Not sure our current senior players would be receptive. Appointing a new coach would only be a halfway measure IMO. I don't think the old guard are capable of adapting and changing any more. Same old mistakes and an inability to do anything other than work hard. We need substantial quantities of new blood on the playing side too.

yes. McGuire should go, burrow, I'm told, is a damn good coach so keep him. I'd have jjb doing the juniors, a bit of coaching but his influence as a guide to young players would be supurb