Phillip will probably come out with the sort of hand of God garbage he came out with when Magsy got that bad injury at Wigan a few years back. He'll probably think it's Karma against Leeds for what Ferriss did the week before

It was a combination of late,swinging arm,shoulder charge and head contact first. it can't get much worse and has no real mitigating circumstances.

I think generally Wire have a charmed life regarding disciplinary referrals especially when Leeds are the opponents.Briers punch on Ablett,icon_razz.gifaul Wood punching on Ablett Challenge Cup final anyone?Do not expect anything different with this shambles of the RFL disciplinary crew

I don't think the panel has any agenda,just often very random conclusions that don't seem to make sense or match their own previous judgements.

No, no agenda that I can see.But some clubs seem to be treated more equally than others.I was forlornly hoping Ferres would receive a time scale ban deferred until the off season, or Brian Mc to be asked if Ferres would be involved in any England training camps before applying any ban.

Ferres's challenge was dangerous and he deserves time off and needs to think about the possible outcome of what he did. Hopefully Gildart will not suffer in the future from Ferres's attention. Westwood is an aggressive player who let his emotions get the better of him early in the game to make a statement. He too deserves time off. I would hope that both players, both experienced, will reflect and come back and be a little more aware of what could happen due to their actions. Most we can hope for.

Aye, rumour has it that Nicloa Adams has a life size blow up of Carl Ablett to practice her punching technique on.

That was once as in on one occasion rather than Wardle only throwing one shot, as he threw several - most of which landed.

Challenge Cup 2013, IIRC Wardle dismissed in 1st half (subsequent 2 game ban) and Leeds were still easily defeated by their 12 man opponents.

where does Brad singletons shot fit in...?
ten minutes into the match and not even sin binned

reckless by Westwood I think he'll get pinged with 3 games.
Given our situation I would like to think Westwood was G'd up and was simply putting pressure on the kicker to show some intent for the rest of the game, but didnt have the smarts to pull out when he got there.

like it or not Rugby is a tough game I'm sure most people would rather be hit face to face than from behind.

and the Sims incident ...That's as tough as he gets, putting a leg near someones midriff.... nothing to see there...

I hope Westwood gets hit with a big ban as I am still v irritated by the RFL response to the Blake Green punch.

"Player pleads guilty to the offence of punching. The player states that it was a big occasion being the Grand Final. The atmosphere was intense with arms and legs everywhere. The player states that he received an elbow which he states was not deliberate from his opponent. The player then wanted to let him know he was there and went in hard but not deliberately. The player states was devastated when he saw on the screen the replays where he had caught his opponent as he never intended to do anything deliberate to hurt his opponent."

"The committee have viewed this incident and the DVD is clear that the player has struck his opponent with a punch. The committee accept this was not a deliberate attack to the head. The committee give the player credit for his guilty plea and show of remorse in this incident and accept it was a highly charged atmosphere in a big game. The player does not have a bad disciplinary record for this type of incident and the committee feel that a 1 match suspension and a £300 fine is appropriate in this instance."

Biggest load of bull ever.

All 3 incidents (Westwood, Ferres & Singleton) deserved red cards.

I have a bit of sympathy with the ref in Ferres case because it wasnt obvious at all what had happened.

I can only assume in Singletons case the officials didn't see where the contact was, otherwise I don't see any reason why Singleton should've got away with that hit.

The Westwood one beggars belief. Child saw it. You can see him watching the incident. The touch judge saw it and even reported contact to the head. A late hit, on a kicker, contact to the head, in that fashion. Easy red card. If the game had been at Leeds I think Child may have plucked up the courage to adequately punish the offence he and his officials clearly saw.

Carney and Wells made the point on Sky that the video ref is absolutely fine being called upon to decide minute details like goal line drop outs but can't influence much on foul play.

Ironically I'm pretty sure McIlorum was given trial by video ref a few years ago for a late hit on a player that had passed the ball.

Quote: Wigg'n " Ironically I'm pretty sure McIlorum was given trial by video ref a few years ago for a late hit on a player that had passed the ball.'" Was it this one where he did Kirk Dixon straight from the kick off? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgU3_hfd84

Quote: Wigg'n " Ironically I'm pretty sure McIlorum was given trial by video ref a few years ago for a late hit on a player that had passed the ball.'" Was it this one where he did Kirk Dixon straight from the kick off? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgU3_hfd84