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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| I think Hudds will win too.....or at least should. If they can't produce a response on the back of what they offered up against Leigh against a team that has nothing to play for now then they really are in trouble.
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| It'll be interesting to see what attitude Leeds show. I think hudds will be desperate to put this week's humiliation behind them. Could be our turn if we don't show some balls.
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| Giants v Salford in the MPG IMO
Either way some gog3s are gonna have to eat some humble pie if one of these sides gets relegated
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: Rhinos 22 Wigan 20 "Giants v Salford in the MPG IMO'"
Looks like that way to me also. And Salford comfortably beat Hudds at the start of the Middle 8's. This Hudds team definitely could be the one that's going down. Obviously Paul Anderson was struggling this year and wasn't winning games but under him I don't recall them losing games in such fashion as they've done vs Leigh and Salford in this Middle 8's, like I said he was struggling this year but I fancy he'd have kept up through this Middle 8's.
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| For the integrity of the competition Leeds need to field as strong a side as they can and fully commit otherwise the competition is a joke.
Leeds v Leigh what's the point if Leeds are going to take the attitude many on here are suggesting - if that is the case that is taking attendance monies under false pretences!!
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "For the integrity of the competition Leeds need to field as strong a side as they can and fully commit otherwise the competition is a joke.
Leeds v Leigh what's the point if Leeds are going to take the attitude many on here are suggesting - if that is the case that is taking attendance monies under false pretences!!'"
If Leeds had clinched the LLS last year before the final game vs Hudds would you say we should play our strongest team or rest players for the playoffs?
Happens in sport all the time, when a team has guaranteed there position they rest starters, the final day of the Premiership season often sees several changes made by team that have nothing to play for. Hell in cricket I see Emgland have asked Yorkshire not to play Root or Bairstow in their crucial county games. We've earnt the chance to send our players away for post season ops etc. the other teams like Hudds and HKR could've put themselves in the same position.
If the 19 man squad for these next two games indicate what the match day squad will look like then I see no problem. The Leigh game is two weeks away, plenty of time for people weigh up whether they want to go depending on the circumstances and potential lineup.
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| Resting players has been shown not to necessarily deliver the correct outcomes. When Leeds won the GF from fifth playing there strongest side every week at the end of the campaign was seen as a real positive when compared to sides who had weeks off and rested players.
This isn't just about Leeds this is about an even playing field where potentially players livelihoods are at risk
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Resting players has been shown not to necessarily deliver the correct outcomes. When Leeds won the GF from fifth playing there strongest side every week at the end of the campaign was seen as a real positive when compared to sides who had weeks off and rested players.
This isn't just about Leeds this is about an even playing field where potentially players livelihoods are at risk'"
Nothing rests on Leeds vs Leigh so that one has zero impact on players livelihoods.
As for the Hudds game. They, HKR and Salford have had 28 games to guarantee their safety. If it was the other way round and HKR were safe and resting players and we were in 4th I'm sure you'd be the first to say we've only got ourselves to blame. HKR might seem the team most affected by us resting players vs Hudds but KR's future is still in their own hands by beating Hudds the following week and they could've beaten Leigh the other week and they could've beaten us in Round 23 and gotten those different fixtures and an extra home game.
If we want to do well in 2017 we start the preparation for 2017 right now. Hull and Warrington weren't naming strongest lineups for pretty much all of last year's Top 8's and were instead looking ahead to 2016 and look how that's done for them. The sooner we get players rested, fit, fixed up for the 2017 pre-season the better chance we have of hitting the ground running in 2017.
I was one of the people who said we had to go as serious as possible vs Batley as their was a job to do and others wanted half the u19's in.....that in my opinion was showing the greater disrespect to the competition when safety wasn't guaranteed.
Let's put it is way. If Kallum Watkins plays vs Hudds and does his knee exactly the same as Stevie Ward did 12 months and we lose him for most of 2017 as we still happy we picked our strongest lineup?
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| Re the Watkins scenario yes. Because that's a risk we take every time players go on the field, even for training.
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| These games are now meaningless. Use the opportunity to give the likes of Smith, Mullalley, Handley etc a start.
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| Meaningless for Leeds and Leigh but for the integrity of the competition they are not. Certainly not meaningless for HKR and The Giants and financially not for others as the difference in funding between 6th and 7th is around 300k. I understand in a way what people are saying but come on, there are only 2 games left of the season. The only game at this moment in time that is meaningless is Leeds v Leigh in week 7.
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| The middle eights are over for us now, we should take the opportunity to send as many players away for a long pre-season as possible.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "For the integrity of the competition Leeds need to field as strong a side as they can and fully commit otherwise the competition is a joke.
Leeds v Leigh what's the point if Leeds are going to take the attitude many on here are suggesting - if that is the case that is taking attendance monies under false pretences!!'"
I agree.
If we deliberately field a weakened team it makes the competition a farce as we could be the one who decides who goes down
I am sure if we were in the same position as Salford, Huddersfield and HKR and one of them did the same to us there be uproar and outrage on this board.
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| Quote: STEVENM1000 "I agree.
If we deliberately field a weakened team it makes the competition a farce as we could be the one who decides who goes down
I am sure if we were in the same position as Salford, Huddersfield and HKR and one of them did the same to us there be uproar and outrage on this board.'"
We would play the same way whether we put the same team as last week, or make half a dozen changes. The only thing that would change would be the enthusiasm from those looking to stake a claim. That can only be for the benefit of those teams who haven't warranted the right to rest players.
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| Quote: Gotcha "We would play the same way whether we put the same team as last week, or make half a dozen changes. The only thing that would change would be the enthusiasm from those looking to stake a claim. That can only be for the benefit of those teams who haven't warranted the right to rest players.'"
The point I am making is not whether the first team will be ars*d to play, but we should be seen to do the right thing for the sake of the competition and not give an unfair advantage to another team.
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