Injured his shoulder with Featherstone last week, aggravated it in training.

Is there another team in SL that rejigs their entire team to accommodate an 18 year old full-back off the bench? Classic McDermott.

If I was Keinhorst, I'd be in his office on Monday asking to be released at the end of the season. Arguably Leeds stand-out player during a really bad run, and now seemingly behind Achurch in the pecking order.

He was at the end of the tackle, point of his elbow initially hit behind the line. From side on of course.

Depends if South stand or North stand. And I accept doubt on elbow, but ball was clearly over.

Out of interest, those saying we deserved to win, how are you coming to that conclusion? The game is about controlling, and taking opportunities. Widnes controlled that second half. We took the try chances, but didn't manage what needed to be managed, and never looked in control. Our pivots have absolutely no idea what so ever.

Like I said before I do think we got lucky with the Moon try (again in line as I swapped end of the South Stand between halfs) and Golding looked like he bombed it but Thaler allowed play on instead of knock on. Comically looked like he was motioning for the screen before realising it wasn't a TV game.

Lack of direction/composure/leadership whatever you want to call it from the halves. Understandable had it been Sutcliffe and Lilley, unacceptable when it's McGuire & Burrow and it's not a one off.

Thaler was very poor again. Terrible inconsistencies re the ruck. His reputation is falling quicker Boris Johnson's.

True, not for the first time this year I've been left wondering what's happened to him. First half in particular was James Child-esque in his giving of soft and pedantic decisions.

it was a shambles. swopping full back twice? really??? non use of a sub, again. the halves were nowhere to be seen on the last tackle option. time and again a prop had it. sooner macdermott goes the better. he really has lost the plot.
collina, the best football referee in the world for years, was asked if refs you don't see are the best. he replied no, its the ones with the balls to make a last minte big decision are the best.
on that basis thaler failed miserably

I dont think we deserved to win at all but slating Sutty why exactly?
Burrow Mcguire were woeful ,Achurch powder puff Jjb conceding penalties for fun whilst clearly blowing out of his arris so uber coach moves him to prop
Then we have Cuthbertson who again didn't look fit & not one of his panic offloads
went above anyones bootlaces.
Loads of negatives about today & indeed the season Suttcliffe isnt anywere near them imo.

sutty was poor but he needs a regular position. he's a half back trying to learn to play full back. our erstwhile coach started him at full back, switched him to loose forward, then to the halves,then back to full back. no wonder he looked shellshocked

Golding cannot play again. He's had more than enough chances. Rubbish. Why didn't Handley play over Briscoe? Why didn't Keinhorst get on?

On the plus side, Achurch was good.

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What? Sutty was doing ok. The Golding cameo at FB was horrendous

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What? Sutty was doing ok. The Golding cameo at FB was horrendous

We starting the game well, it was when we made the change with Golding coming on it started to go wrong. He offers nothing and I'm reaching the view some have had that he needs to go as he's not of SL standard.

Which imo is where Mags/Burrow went to pieces the team were setting up for moves & those 2 just started making it up on the back of some awful handling/offloads.