We had a couple of weeks period Hull-Hudds when the effort looked to be there and that they were still trying to fight. The players tonight barring one or two like Burrow and Lilley threw the towel in.

Nope. This is a rebuilding job that needs doing from the ground up, and it needs someone with no professional or personal attachment to the current staff to come in and do it. Maybe an experienced "football manager" to oversee the whole operation, and a coach who can deliver both structure and motivation.

As a separate thread says, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

Not often Stevo speaks sense, but he made the comment that Cas were a team where each player knew where they were meant to be, we didn't. You can talk about loss of training ground, 3 legends, injuries, etc. But we have enough decent players who have played the game long enough to know how to play the game. There's a definite lack of preparation and coaching in this team. On attack we're too easy to read which means that we're easier to break through in defence. I can't see where our next win will come from

When McDermott was interviewed then and Angela Powers said the effort was still there from players, instead of defending them like he usually does he did try and suggest the effort wasn't there before biting his tongue a bit and then holding back.

I feel a bit for the guy there, that was a big twos up from the players tonight after his backing from the CEO this week.He must know the writing is on the wall now

It's scary to think all the players aren't putting in a 100% but terrifying to think they are.

Stop moaning you won everything last year and after half the season its the end of the world. True supporters get behind the club.

Hetherington sacks McDermott now, he looks an absolute idiot.

The one thing GH does have is a massive ego. No way he'll admit he got it wrong less than 7 days later.

You really have no idea.....

Same here.

I'm not McDermott's biggest fan but he deserved better from his players than that effort tonight.

If P45's are going to be handed out shortly, a lot of those players should be at the front of the queue.

I'd start with Hardaker.

Oh sorry, yes terrific performance that, bottom of the league but thats ok...as you were lads.. can't say owt don't want to upset other fans so will keep quiet for another couple of years when the memories of winning trophies has well and truly faded.

Muppet!

I'll raise you with a Watkins

People can talk about coaching all they want but players at this level who have shown they can do it previously don't need McDermott or Sinfield or Peacock to hold their hands to do simple things like tackle around the legs, know to kick the ball on the 5th and not be offside when you're kicking off.

Think it was Garbutt with that last offence but I'll cut him some slack because I don't usually bet but my mate was doing first try scorer so I thought I'll put £2 on McGuire and just as I was about to put £2 on Handley something stopped me and randomly convinced me to go for Garbutt at 50/1.....so silver linings and all.

We'll have no one to play and will end up forfeiting games if we hand out P45's to players based on performance.

A much less painful way to surrender 2 points.

Players who can hold their head up for me over last few weeks - Handley,Keinhorst,Golding,Lilley,Burrow,Garbutt,JJB

The rest need to have a serious look in the mirror and do some real soul searching imo.