I think there were periods during the late 70's and early 80's when a similar level of crap was served up. I'm thinking of the Robin Dewhurst era with a squad containing players who were well past their best like Atkinson, Alan Smith, Eccles, Dickinson, etc... and some of the other players were pretty ordinary... Mackintosh's, Binder, Massa, Andrew Smith, Conway.

Some fans raved over the likes of Ian Wilkinson and Dave Heselwood. I wasn't one of them. Apart from Holmes and Heron they were pretty rubbish most of the time. Still managed a Yorkshire Cup win and a John Player Final at Elland Rd. I won't mention that CC Semi Final at Swinton and the crossbar!

Not sure even that lot played as badly and served up quite as much clueless crap for as long as the current lot though

All this doom and gloom! We have had a poor (read terrible) start to the season I doubt even the most rose tinted amongst us would dispute that. I honestly didn't expect much this year as I saw it as a year of transition. But even measured against my low expectations, it has been a dreadful start. But the season is still not a write off, not yet anyway. If we can avoid the mid 8's and put together a decent run in the CC then it could even be a mediocre year. I won't revisit all of the factors that MIGHT be contributing to our slump in form. But for mine if we can get more of our first choice players fit and back on the park, I don't see any reason why we can't be competitive enough to avoid the middle 8's and put together a decent CC run. As Rhinos fans we will all I am sure, be taking stick from RL supporting friends, acquaintances and colleagues. Shrug it off as the price we pay for all of the success we have enjoyed over the last decade and more. Keep the faith

Those calling the season a right off may be right in one respect but don't assume the middle 8s will be easy.

You don't sit on the fence, do you?

Leeds are either so fantastic they'll go whole seasons unbeaten, or they'll struggle in the Middle 8's.

What planet do you live on, we finished 6th. I suppose you would consider this a pretty good season so far considering we're not bottom. As for "throwing it away", would Usain Bolt consider it a good race if he was in front for 90 yards before 5 people overtook him in the last ten yards? The League season consists of 27 league games, that is what you are judged on and that is what defines you as a team. You finish 6th in such a mediocre competition and it's a poor season, simple as that.

Right now I'd settle for 7 days unbeaten.

"The Big Fellas Stadium". Be afraid!! Of course, I suppose that could still be named after a group of fat radio DJ's!

Headingley B. They wear your old kits too.

McCain Stadium B. The only thing missing is the turf. Plus Savile's huge headstone!

At the start of the season I said I would take a trophy and top 4, I guess now I would still be pretty happy with a CC and top 8