The poor man's Lesley Vainikolo perhaps needs to 'work a little less harder down at the gym' and lose a bit of unnatural timber.

Said last year when somebody from an opposition club mentioned Hall's try totals dropping from a few years back......he'd still easily score in the high 20's/30 mark if he played on the wing for Wigan with the chances they create for their winger. He's still as good a finisher he just doesn't have Webb and Senior on that left hand side anymore. Since their departures he doesn't get anywhere near the same amount of chances which is frustrating because the guy only needs half or even quarter of a chance to get over the line when close (see Saints playoff game last year).

I think we can start talking about Hall as a problem when he stops finishing the chances he gets. The fact that he doesn't get as many chances anymore isn't really his fault.

As well as no longer having a wingers centre and pall playing fullback putting him in I also think you have to bear in mind we are more balanced in terms of threats. We seem to score more points through the middle, and in contrast to the Senior days, our right hand side is just as strong as the left.

Hall is certainly not 'fast'.

Why?

Wouldn't make him any better at tackling nor would it make the team create more chances for him.....all it would effect (in a negative way) is his impact when carrying the ball back early in sets.

If that's what you want from him, you may as well replace him with George Rose.

I'd like to see Hall and Briscoe both have enough chances to end up with at least 25-30 tries as they're both capable of it. (Obviously Briscoe's injury would effect that)....but they don't. The role Hall has in our style of play then his size is actually correct.

he was as lucky as walters at the end of last season

That is what makes him the complete winger for me, he can finish when given chances yet when he isn't, he is still an important cog bringing the ball back and doesn't shirk work at all. Its a shame he isn't getting the service these days that he did when he first broke through because he is still one of the very best close to the line.I dont really care who is rated WBW, but i personally wouldn't swap him for anyone else in world rugby.

Complete winger is more than a bit of a stretch to describe him, though he'll be fine and dandy in SL. There's no winger in SL capable of treating his defence with the level of contempt that Kyle Feldt did.

Reminded me of a teenage Mal Meninga contemptuously swatting away Les Dyl at Boothferry Park against GB in 1982, except on that occasion Dyl could at least argue in self-defence that Meninga was twice as big as he was.

It was a good fend no doubt, over egging it a bit there though even by your standards. Hall will fend away far more players than those who get the fend on him throughout a season though so i can forgive one miss in situation where a try was likely were he to have made the tackle anyway.

Not Leeds fans- even the aussie press put him in team of the year 3 times

He's not the best winger anymore though (and unfortunately for Huds its not Mcgilvrey either) that would be Semi Radradra imo

Reminded me of Billy Slater trying to stop a certain English winger and ending up with a broken collarbone.

Hall is way heavier than 1982 Meninga. Nobody would "swat" him away if he was stationary. He mistimed his tackle badly, and someone with his experience should have done better.

Thats probably closer to it. Hall just got it all wrong.

What was more disappointing was that that particular try you could see coming from two plays before, and whilst Halls effort was pretty poor, the defensive structure had fallen apart so much it would have taken an outstanding effort to stop it.