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| Quote: Big Jim Slade]Would you invite someone into the dressing room who'd stolen from other players? '" ]
No. But he hasn't.
Look, people are complicated, their private lives are complicated and relationships are too. What went on between 3 people is their business and "Would you invite someone into the dressing room who'd stolen from other players? '" ]
No. But he hasn't.
Look, people are complicated, their private lives are complicated and relationships are too. What went on between 3 people is their business and "blame" in these situations is not something that is easily apportioned.
The simple fact is two guys who were very close friends now can't work together because of some personal issues. Ferres has been a solid part of that Hudds team for years and has brought a professional attitude to the England side when he's been included. What's gone on between him, his former best mate and his wife would not bother me in the slightest if I were a Leeds player.
Obviously it would bother you.
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| I would be disgusted if my team (or any team) signed him. The same applies to Salford and Carney. Every team has players that have done regrettable things but that is one line you DO NOT cross. Leeds' team morale would decrease significantly if you signed him. Send him to Leigh
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "I would be disgusted if my team (or any team) signed him. The same applies to Salford and Carney. Every team has players that have done regrettable things but that is one line you DO NOT cross. Leeds' team morale would decrease significantly if you signed him. Send him to Leigh'"
Do you think that all of the professional RL clubs worldwide will share your views and refrain from signing a very talented International player for making one grave error?
I certainly do not condone his actions but I'm sure that he has also been through a traumatic time in dealing with what has happened and in being so weak as to betray his best friend in this way, although there is certainly more to the story than what has been reported in the media
Everyone deserves a second chance in life and Ferres certainly deserves the chance to move on with his career and I'm sure that he will wherever he eventually ends up
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| Would you invite someone into the dressing room who had stolen from the players?
Leeds did!!
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "if Ferres slept with his best mates mrs and his best mate didn't happen to play in the same team as him he would still be a Huddersfield player and apart from people saying what a prat there wouldn't be much else said.'"
Given that he did sleep with his team mates Mrs and that's EXACTLY what makes it such an issue, I'm not sure of the relevance of the point you're making here.
It wouldn't sit well with me if we signed him, I never really liked him as a character prior to this. But then I'm not the one taking to the field with him.
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| Leeds have a job to do, and that's assemble the playing squad that has the best chance of winning all the available trophies in 2016.
Would Brett Ferres - from a playing perspective - enhance that? Of course he would. He's on a level with Ward and Ablett as the best second rowers at the club.
It's alright taking the moral high ground, but you don't get medals for that. If the management at Leeds think he could be integrated into the squad, then they should make enquiries about bringing him in.
As it is, I think it's something of a moot point as I can't see Huddersfield letting him go on loan to another contender for trophies.
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| Big Jim, you need to stop being hysterical. I pay my hard earn money to watch Leeds Rhinos for 80 minutes a week. I want to see my team win matches, win trophies. Give us great memories. Would Brett Ferres improve the squad? Yes, he undoubtedly would! Has Ferres broken the law? No! What is your view on Zak Hardaker? Ryan Bailey? Chev Walker? I have no interest in any aspect outside of the 80 minutes on that pitch. I trust Messrs McDermott and Hetherington to deal with that side of things!
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| Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Big Jim, you need to stop being hysterical. I pay my hard earn money to watch Leeds Rhinos for 80 minutes a week. I want to see my team win matches, win trophies. Give us great memories. Would Brett Ferres improve the squad? Yes, he undoubtedly would! Has Ferres broken the law? No! What is your view on Zak Hardaker? Ryan Bailey? Chev Walker? I have no interest in any aspect outside of the 80 minutes on that pitch. I trust Messrs McDermott and Hetherington to deal with that side of things!'"
I think you're missing the point.
It's got nothing to do with the law. It's got to do with team atmosphere/ethic/whatever you want to call it.
The "problem" with Ferres isn't that he had an affair, or that he betrayed his best mate. It's that he betrayed his team mate.
If you want to watch your team win trophies then you have to have a squad that are willing to give their all for each other, see the last 16 minutes of the Grand Final.
You should have an interest in aspects outside the 80 minutes on the pitch. The stuff that happens off the pitch is often what turns good players into great ones and good teams into winning ones.
See Salford for what happens when you get the off-field aspects very wrong.
It's up to Leeds to decide whether Ferres will adversely affect the team or not, as they will be able to contact players and coaches who will know a lot more about Ferres than we do.
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| Has it occurred to anyone that some of the Leeds lads may be pals with Craig Huby? Surely that would be taken in to consideration as it would be hugely damaging to the dressing room.
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| Quote: Him "I think you're missing the point.
It's got nothing to do with the law. It's got to do with team atmosphere/ethic/whatever you want to call it.
The "problem" with Ferres isn't that he had an affair, or that he betrayed his best mate. It's that he betrayed his team mate.'"
I think you have got that big all wrong, and as a result are giving a character assassination without viewing all sides.
It is the fact that they are so close that this happened. Team mates didn't come into, it would have happened under the same circumstances were they both working together as welders, or designers, etc. Things happen in life that you don't expect, and people need to get a sense of reality here.
Was it just a quickie after a drink, I fully understand your point. But it wasn't, and it was because of a direct result of how close these two families are, that two of them got closer than should.
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| I think some have been watching too much Jeremy Kyle. He was caught out sh*gging someone better left unsh*gged. Big deal. I'd be surprised if there's a single team where this hasn't happened. And although that doesn't excuse it, it certainly shouldn't stop the club from signing him. Were they to see him as a requirement which I'm not sure they would.
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| Here we go again. People THINKING that they know what's gone on. There's only one thing we all know for a fact and that is Ferres is a damn good rugby player. He hasn't broken the law or brought shame on rugby league (like Hardaker, Bailey, Walker etc). We have 2 second rowers with long term injuries, another who's body is in bits, and a 4th who played every single game last year. Ferres for one year will ease the pressure on these guys
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| Quote: Gotcha "I think you have got that big all wrong, and as a result are giving a character assassination without viewing all sides.
It is the fact that they are so close that this happened. Team mates didn't come into, it would have happened under the same circumstances were they both working together as welders, or designers, etc. Things happen in life that you don't expect, and people need to get a sense of reality here.
Was it just a quickie after a drink, I fully understand your point. But it wasn't, and it was because of a direct result of how close these two families are, that two of them got closer than should.'"
I'm not assassinating anyone's character, look at my post on the previous page.
It doesn't matter whether it would've happened in any other job. Short of the armed forces any other job doesn't require the kind of effort and commitment to each that RL does on the pitch.
As I said, Leeds have to satisfy themselves about his character that this act has called into question.
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| Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Here we go again. People THINKING that they know what's gone on. There's only one thing we all know for a fact and that is Ferres is a damn good rugby player. He hasn't broken the law or brought shame on rugby league (like Hardaker, Bailey, Walker etc). We have 2 second rowers with long term injuries, another who's body is in bits, and a 4th who played every single game last year. Ferres for one year will ease the pressure on these guys'"
Once again, it's got nothing to do with "shame on rugby league" or the law. It's got to do with how a player treats his teammates, which is a very important part of modern RL.
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| Quote: Him "Once again, it's got nothing to do with "shame on rugby league" or the law. It's got to do with how a player treats his teammates, which is a very important part of modern RL.'"
Utter rubbish. We don't know their situation and why it happened. I'd be more worried if we had a player who is always getting into trouble for homophobic slurs and beating up a student.
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