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I think our and Saints are greater achievements than the Bulls because of the timing of the CC.

I think ours is greater than Saints because

1. We did it off the back of the Super 8s
2. I'm a Leeds fan

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Quote: craigizzard "2005 was the strongest year for Super League in terms of having all the top three teams near their peak (Leeds, Bradford, Saints). But for a bad selection in the CC Final and Bradford cheating the cap we'd have won the double then too.'"


If not for Terry Newton I think Saints would have won the GF comfortably that year IMHO.

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Quote: G1 "I think our and Saints are greater achievements than the Bulls because of the timing of the CC.

I think ours is greater than Saints because

1. We did it off the back of the Super 8s
2. I'm a Leeds fan'"


The super 8's means ours is the best. For sure. Unless the CC cup is moved to earlier in the season it will be very hard for a team to replicate it.

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Ours was certainly the most dramatic. Those last three games were nerve shredding.

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Can someone with more time than me list the first 17 for each of the teams, would be fascinating to compare man for man...

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Bulls 03

R.Paul
Vaikona
Withers
Hape
Vainokolo
L.Pryce
Deacon

Vagana
Lowes
Fielden
Peacock
Gartner
Forshaw

Reardon
Gilmour
P.Anderson
Radford

Saints 06

Wellens
Gardner
Lyon
Talau
Meli
Pryce
Long

P.Anderson
Cunningham
Cayless
Wilkin
Sculthorpe
Hooper

Roby
Graham
Gilmour
Fa'asavalu

Leeds 15

Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
Sinfield
McGuire

Peacock
Aiton
Garbutt
Ablett
Ward
Cuthbertson

Burrow
Leuluai
Singleton
Delaney

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And to think that Bulls 2003 side won their playoff semi and Grand Final with Karl Pratt as starting Stand Off.

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The Bulls 2003 team was the most fearsome for Daryl Powell's Leeds. 5 defeats on the trot says it all. Although it did make 2004 all the sweeter.

The Saints team was good but has more obvious frailties - Gardner and Meli to name two.

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The Saints and Bulls teams must have been better than Leeds. They both won despite having Leon at stand off.

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The Bulls 03 and Saints 06 sides were like chalk and cheese in the way they played the game, so very difficult to compare.

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gilmour , pryce and anderson in both 03 and 06 teams

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Quote: doc-rhino "gilmour , pryce and anderson in both 03 and 06 teams'"


You forget how good a career Lee Gilmour had. He also won a Grand Final with Wigan in 1998.

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I think it’s worth bearing in mind that the position of Super League in relation to the NRL has changed greatly in the last decade. Teams were generally able to keep hold of their top talent (e.g Long, Cunningham, Peacock, Sculthorpe, Fielden), who these days would go to the NRL/Union (e.g Burgess, Graham, Tomkins) and teams were able to bring over a better calibre of player (e.g Lyon, Barrett, Vainikolo, Richards) who wouldn’t really look at the Super League these days. As such I think the standard of teams at the top was a bit higher than it is currently.

I’ll go for the ’03 Bulls for that reason and the fact that there were four legitimate contenders to win trophies that year (Bradford, Leeds, Saints, Wigan) compared to three in ’06 (Bradford, Leeds, Saints) and ’15 (Leeds, Saints, Wigan). This Leeds side is undoubtedly a great side but I think the other two also pinch it on star factor. If you were to pick a 17 of super league players since its inception I’d argure there isn’t any Leeds player of ’15 who would get in, whereas the ’03 Bulls have Vainikolo, Fielden and Peacock and the ’06 Saints have Lyon, Long and Cunningham (the memory plays tricks so I can’t remember whether how good Sculthorpe, Roby and Graham were at that point).

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Quote: Grimmy "I think it’s worth bearing in mind that the position of Super League in relation to the NRL has changed greatly in the last decade. Teams were generally able to keep hold of their top talent (e.g Long, Cunningham, Peacock, Sculthorpe, Fielden), who these days would go to the NRL/Union (e.g Burgess, Graham, Tomkins) and teams were able to bring over a better calibre of player (e.g Lyon, Barrett, Vainikolo, Richards) who wouldn’t really look at the Super League these days. As such I think the standard of teams at the top was a bit higher than it is currently.

I’ll go for the ’03 Bulls for that reason and the fact that there were four legitimate contenders to win trophies that year (Bradford, Leeds, Saints, Wigan) compared to three in ’06 (Bradford, Leeds, Saints) and ’15 (Leeds, Saints, Wigan). This Leeds side is undoubtedly a great side but I think the other two also pinch it on star factor. If you were to pick a 17 of super league players since its inception I’d argure there isn’t any Leeds player of ’15 who would get in, whereas the ’03 Bulls have Vainikolo, Fielden and Peacock and the ’06 Saints have Lyon, Long and Cunningham (the memory plays tricks so I can’t remember whether how good Sculthorpe, Roby and Graham were at that point).'"

Totally disagree. I think the reason these players stand out for you, is because the Super League Competition was weaker than it is now, and teams are nearer to each other than ever before. I also disagree that British Players are of poorer quality to Australian or New Zealand Players, individually. Also keeping talent is a dead rubber argument because who has left to Union or the NRL that would have featured in the Top End of Super League.....Nobody.

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Quote: Grimmy "I think it’s worth bearing in mind that the position of Super League in relation to the NRL has changed greatly in the last decade. Teams were generally able to keep hold of their top talent (e.g Long, Cunningham, Peacock, Sculthorpe, Fielden), who these days would go to the NRL/Union (e.g Burgess, Graham, Tomkins) and teams were able to bring over a better calibre of player (e.g Lyon, Barrett, Vainikolo, Richards) who wouldn’t really look at the Super League these days. As such I think the standard of teams at the top was a bit higher than it is currently.

I’ll go for the ’03 Bulls for that reason and the fact that there were four legitimate contenders to win trophies that year (Bradford, Leeds, Saints, Wigan) compared to three in ’06 (Bradford, Leeds, Saints) and ’15 (Leeds, Saints, Wigan). This Leeds side is undoubtedly a great side but I think the other two also pinch it on star factor. If you were to pick a 17 of super league players since its inception I’d argure there isn’t any Leeds player of ’15 who would get in, whereas the ’03 Bulls have Vainikolo, Fielden and Peacock and the ’06 Saints have Lyon, Long and Cunningham (the memory plays tricks so I can’t remember whether how good Sculthorpe, Roby and Graham were at that point).'"


I think the version of Peacock who would get in the "all time team" is the one who played for Leeds in any one of 2007-2012, not the Bradford 2003 version.

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