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| Wasn't the issue with Bird that he couldn't get a UK visa but could for France? Perhaps the same is true for Carney and GH is suggesting an unfair advantage.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Wasn't the issue with Bird that he couldn't get a UK visa but could for France? Perhaps the same is true for Carney and GH is suggesting an unfair advantage.'"
Yes, that was the issue with Bird, and GH correctly got nowhere with it. It probably is a bit of an unfair advantage for Catalans, but if you sign up for an international competition (which the Super League just about is) you have to expect that teams within that competition can employ players according to the laws of their country, not yours.
I don't see English clubs picking and choosing who can play for Porto in the Champions League because their young South Americans wouldn't get a UK working visa.
If Carney had a ban from the sport that would be a different matter, but as an immigration issue GH has absolutely no right to interfere.
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| Quote: DHM "We can never have too many players who can p1$$ in their own mouth. It's something we just don't coach often enough at junior level in our game.'"
As a RU man I am sure you have got unto some strange rituals on tour!!
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| The point is Carney has been sacked by how many Clubs and had how many issues he is a serial offender!
Add in the fact the Giants had an agreement to sign him but were denied by Visa issues then why should Catalan be allowed to sign him?
SL is not Football on any level so the comparison is irellevant if a player is not eligable for ALL teams in this comp then he shouldn't be for one!
Whether it will prevent him signing or not is another matter but its a fair point to raise no matter how good a player he is.
Also comparisons with players already here is irrelevant they are obviously eligible for all teams once they have served their respective bans etc.
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| Just to add I do hope GH is putting 100% into the end of season inquest after a p!$$ poor 2nd half to the regular SL rounds culminating in a deserved early play off exit.
These are much bigger issues than whether or not a serial sh## head should be allowed to play for the French when he isn't eligible for the rest of the SL.
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| Quote: rhinoms "The point is Carney has been sacked by how many Clubs and had how many issues he is a serial offender!
Add in the fact the Giants had an agreement to sign him but were denied by Visa issues then why should Catalan be allowed to sign him?
SL is not Football on any level so the comparison is irellevant if a player is not eligable for ALL teams in this comp then he shouldn't be for one!
Whether it will prevent him signing or not is another matter but its a fair point to raise no matter how good a player he is.
Also comparisons with players already here is irrelevant they are obviously eligible for all teams once they have served their respective bans etc.'"
But he isn't ineligible for all teams
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| Quote: cod'ead "But he isn't ineligible for all teams'"
You do know that ineligible and not eligible have two different meanings dependent on the context of the sentence?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "As a RU man I am sure you have got unto some strange rituals on tour!!'"
True. Stuff like that doesn't bother me. Drink driving, yes, pee pee fun, pretending to shag a dog - really not.
One of my clubs (where Owen Farrell used to play) had a blown up picture of a bloke's bell end with 100 ten franc coins up his foreskin. Those were the days when special skills like that were celebrated.
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| GH's public pontifications on the availability of serial miscreants in Super League is a masterful distraction technique, particularly when full on support for one serial miscreant is hypocritically followed up so quickly by moral outrage directed towards another.
With a bit of luck, the majority of single celled organisms who worship at his altar won't notice the season was terminated prematurely by whipping boy SL rabble last week as season tickets head towards that holy grail of 10,000 by December.
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| Quote: William Eve "GH's public pontifications on the availability of serial miscreants in Super League is a masterful distraction technique, particularly when full on support for one serial miscreant is hypocritically followed up so quickly by moral outrage directed towards another.
With a bit of luck, the majority of single celled organisms who worship at his altar won't notice the season was terminated prematurely by whipping boy SL rabble last week as season tickets head towards that holy grail of 10,000 by December.'"
Leeds will be lucky to hit 7,000 after this season's debacle in the league - although the sell has started with GH's positive assessment of the season and the coaching set up.
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| Quote: rhinoms "The point is Carney has been sacked by how many Clubs and had how many issues he is a serial offender!
Add in the fact the Giants had an agreement to sign him but were denied by Visa issues then why should Catalan be allowed to sign him?
SL is not Football on any level so the comparison is irellevant if a player is not eligable for ALL teams in this comp then he shouldn't be for one!
Whether it will prevent him signing or not is another matter but its a fair point to raise no matter how good a player he is.
Also comparisons with players already here is irrelevant they are obviously eligible for all teams once they have served their respective bans etc.'"
The point is he is admissable to work in France under French law. The RFL is not in a position to start interfering with that (and I've no doubt that it would get it's backside slapped if it ever tried to). There are probably other factors that make Catalans either more or less attractive than UK-based clubs - exchange rates or tax systems for example.
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "The point is he is admissable to work in France under French law. The RFL is not in a position to start interfering with that (and I've no doubt that it would get it's backside slapped if it ever tried to). There are probably other factors that make Catalans either more or less attractive than UK-based clubs - exchange rates or tax systems for example.'"
Just a point, but why would they attempt to sign for UK Clubs and then only sign for Catalan when it falls through?
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| If Catalan shouldn't be allowed to sign for Catalan because 'it isn't fair', then I fully expect all UK based clubs will terminate their commercial partnerships with alcohol and gambling companies with immediate effect.
You know, to be fair and all that.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Leeds will be lucky to hit 7,000 after this season's debacle in the league - although the sell has started with GH's positive assessment of the season and the coaching set up.'"
err WHAT!?
Did you say [ipositive[/i assesment?
GH at his spin doctor best.
Reality is as it stands theres just nothing to get excited about for the 2015 season. Same coach, same players plodding along. Looking at the last 2 seasons as a whole it's become obvious the golden generation is winding down now, they've reached their zenith. With no big changes in playing or coaching staff it will be more of the same, just worse.
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