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Quote: ThePrinter "Offensively you can't ignore a 2nd rower who has got 17 tries this year. Defensively though he's 5th in the league for missed tackles, well above any Leeds player even though we've gathered a rep for missing a few tackles this year.

Along with the links to Chan and Kirmond etc. it doesn't seem the position that is of most urgency.'"


Think his defence is the reason he's not cemented his place in the England squad. Physically, he's for everything for a SR. Big, strong, fit and faster than some wingers.

I think he has improved at Catalans, maybe a year or two in NRL to sort out his defence, he would be an outstanding second-rower.

What's happened to Stevie Ward for you guys. When he first broke through he looked like the real deal. Don't watch Leeds every week but he doesn't seem to be living up to his potential. Had a look at stats for Cas game and he missed 7 tackles and made 32 metres. Was it a blip?

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Quote: Bull Mania "Think his defence is the reason he's not cemented his place in the England squad. Physically, he's for everything for a SR. Big, strong, fit and faster than some wingers.

I think he has improved at Catalans, maybe a year or two in NRL to sort out his defence, he would be an outstanding second-rower.

What's happened to Stevie Ward for you guys. When he first broke through he looked like the real deal. Don't watch Leeds every week but he doesn't seem to be living up to his potential. Had a look at stats for Cas game and he missed 7 tackles and made 32 metres. Was it a blip?'"


Regarding Whitehead I think he'll end up moving away from Catalans in the not too distant future. With back row not having any real standouts for England then he's got a shot of making the squad this year. That along with the unlikeliness of Catalans offering realistic trophy chances will see him make the move to a stronger team.

Regarding Ward. Couple of issues, he's not used much as a ball handler more just a run hard 2nd rower. Problem is he's not got the physical build for the role he's being asked to perform. He is someone though I think is worthy of being patient with as his physical build at such a young age has been hampered by spending the previous 2 off seasons recovering from serious shoulder injuries. If he can end the season injury free and hit the off season hard then it could be the making of him in 2015 and the long run.

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Got Ablett, Delaney and Achurch for the long haul in the back row, plus Walters, Minchella and Foster all coming through. Add Sutcliffe & Ward fighting over the LF spot and we're fairly well covered.

That said if we do see Delaney going towards prop / battering ram LF more and want to use Achurch for impact from the bench then Whitehead would be a good shout - lots in his locker and he's still only 24.

As has been said though, we need a pack leader to replace JP (would be worth looking at Luke / George Burgess or even FGB for that).

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