It was on the sky coverage.

Oh well it must be true then

I have a little top tip for you.

Believe nothing to read and only half of what you see.

Isn't there already a ridiculously long thread about Ryan Bailey already? Another one would seem an extravagance.

All I saw was Bailey dancing in front of the Leeds fans, why shouldn't he?
It was far less provocative and arrogant than James Graham was the previous year. No mention of that from the whinging Saints tart in any of his post-Grand Final bitterness/excuses.

remember Wilko complaining because he could hear all the Leeds players celebrating in THEIR own dressing room.
Remember Graham taunting Leeds fans at Huddersfield in a semi final after a Saints try?
He did the same in the GF a few weeks later , but his celebrations were a bit premature

If you seriously believe Bailey intimidates the opposition you must be new to the game fella . Old school prop ? Do me a favour , cartoon panto villain of the highest order and nothing more .

There are plenty of old school enforcers who will be wetting themselves at his antics .

Funny then how the guy has over the past several years been consistently selected for a reguar first team place in the most successful ESL side in the last decade by some of the best SL coaches around.

or did I just imagine this.

We get the point, people don't like Ryan Bailey.

Funny then how whenever defending bailey the only argument people can stump up is ''but x, y and z have all selected him'', rather then reeling off a list of tangible things he actually adds to the team. I bet many people have worked under managers who favoured certain people, and you can't work out why based on their performance.

When I watch leeds games and see bailey and kirke come on and do practically nothing for 10-15 minutes and that is their sole contribution, all I can do is think of how much better we could be if we had a cuople of forwards that really ripped into the opposition for 15 mins each half giving peacock and leuluai a breather.

It's not just opposition fans that dislike bailey (mostly for the wrong reasons, alleging he's a thug), but I've come across many leeds fans that do, and they dislike him because he adds little to the team.

TBF, stating that he's been selected by the likes of GF winning coaches Smith, McClennen and McDermott is a better/rational argument/appraisal than some fan saying "he does f**k all for me!"

I dare say SOME of the Leeds fans who have grown to dislike him have done so simply based on the view other clubs fans have on him and are afraid of looking so biased towards their own team so feel the need to join the "Bailey thug" bandwagon.

Note I said SOME, as some have given fair reasons against Bailey about how he's not consistent enough (but pointed out how he can be good on his day) and silly antics at times, these are the ones who calmly state he should be moved on for someone else and nothing wrong with that view.

Then you get SOME who say he's c**p, always has been c**p, penalty machine, thug etc, who should be shipped off to London or the Championship because he's completely useless.

I dare say that their are actually not many who "dislike" him. If they do they're quite idiotic for disliking someone whose put his body out there on the field for this club whilst you watch in the stands or on tv. Might be quite a few that are frustrated, annoyed, disappointed in him. But "dislike" as an emotion towards him (or anyone who plays for the club) is pathetic IMO.

If they dislike his style of rugby or his contribution to the team, then fair enough thats their opinion and its their right to think so.

but if they dislike the man based on nothing more than heresay or rumour or the opinions of others ( Stan Wall included) then they are prejudiced and IMHO just plain stupid

I couldn't give a tuppeny shizzle what Stan Wall thinks about our players.

Bailey has been a disappointment the last year or so. Before that he was a decent forward who did an important job.

Yes and merited international selection at the time .