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Quote: Him "Actually, having just viewed the 2 incidents, I can see why different punishments were levied.
I certainly can't agree with Hudgell that the Whiting one is far worse. If anything the Poore one is worse. Whiting is tipped onto his head whereas Poore drives the player into the ground.

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I know which impact I would prefer, and I have been on the end of a pretty horrific spear tackle. The Widnes players lift Whiting verticle and then allow him to smash head first into the ground - first mistake is the lift and then they are negligent in allowing him to crash into the turf.
Poore lifts the legs - and this is where I disagree with you - and then tries to control the landing - which ends with the player nearly horizontal.

Both are clumsy and should be discouraged, but for the disciplinary to not levy any punishment on the Widnes players because they "can't identify" a culprit is nonsense. Two clearly identifiable Widnes players lift Whiting's legs and then let go when he's in the air.

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Quote: DHM "I know which impact I would prefer, and I have been on the end of a pretty horrific spear tackle. The Widnes players lift Whiting verticle and then allow him to smash head first into the ground - first mistake is the lift and then they are negligent in allowing him to crash into the turf.
Poore lifts the legs - and this is where I disagree with you - and then tries to control the landing - which ends with the player nearly horizontal.

Both are clumsy and should be discouraged, but for the disciplinary to not levy any punishment on the Widnes players because they "can't identify" a culprit is nonsense. Two clearly identifiable Widnes players lift Whiting's legs and then let go when he's in the air.'"

As i said on the other thread, Poore isnt punished for the players impact with the ground but with for what he does after, which is to lift the legs higher and use his body to drive the player down into the ground. It was a deliberate 2nd effort.

The Whiting one was a poorly executed tackle, it was clumsy and should be punished on the field, However how could you blame a player for it? The parallel or Poore in that situation wasn’t even in contact with the player when he fell, the other two simply executed a tackle as normal except all of a sudden the player they were pushing over was suddenly rotating.

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Yep I read it. Don't agree with any of that either.

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Quote: DHM "Yep I read it. Don't agree with any of that either.'"

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A lot of this comes down to trying to assess what a player's intentions were. Which is difficult, but that's what disciplinary panels try to do. We can see above that two people can view the excat same footage and see different things. That's why the disciplinary has to be a subjective process, because there is no black-and-white right and wrong answer.

To me, the Poore tackle doesn't look like trying to control a landing, it looks like a definite move to drive the player towards the ground.

The Whiting one looks more careless, he is upended and lands in one motion.

So for consistency, there's no real consistency to be had in my opinion because they are not the same incident.

Personally, I would like to see all 3 Widnes players punished. I didn't see much malice there, but I do see some recklessness and some irresponsibility, which I would like to see the RFL act on more strongly.

But that's a change of policy, not a consistency issue.

So, I disagree with Neil Hudgell, and I wouldn't want him representing me in court with that approach.

Furthermore, even if I disagree, this sort of grandstanding is absolutely and completely the wrong way to be going about things. There was no negative press about the RFL disciplinary around the incident until he created it. The only person whose actions are at risk of damaging the credibility and reputation of the sport is Neil Hudgell.

I think we should start a petition calling for him to be publically slapped round the face with a large haddock in front of the TV cameras at Sunday's televised Challenge Cup game.

I bet we could get more than 50 signatures on that, and I think it would attract new audiences to our sport. Look hpw many people used to turn up to public punishments as entertainment in medievil times.

Think about it.

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