At least Sir Kev has won more that 1 Honour in his career

Rhino's
World Club Challenge (3): 2005, 2008, 2012
Runner Up: 2009,2010,2013

Super League (6): 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012
Runner Up 2005

League Leader's Shield (2): 2004, 2009

Individual
Golden Boot: 2012

Harry Sunderland Trophy (2): 2009, 2012
Lance Todd Trophy: 2005

Anybody who wears flip-flops at 7.30 am at this time of year, does not deserve a knighthood.

What about crocs?

Or Toms?


I wore some at 7.30am at the start of October

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If the wearer works in a kitchen; yes. Otherwise, a stern rebuke.

Kevin Sinfield has simply done his day job - albeit to a very high standard - just like the rest of us.

Surely these awards should be given for service/achievement beyond the call of duty?

Agreed, however, when compared to other sportsmen who have received the awards I would say that he more than qualifies for some recognition (although admittedly not a knighthood)

He might help his cause by winning at Wembley one day.

Judging by his effort in the RLWC Semi Final with just seconds remaining, he's got nobody to blame but himself.

There is another thread on here where some people are calling JJB an hero and a legend. That is a very average player who has done his job, and been lucky to be part of a very good squad. Sinfield has done far far more than simply his job, he has achieved way beyond that. Without him those lucky players like your JJB's would never have achieved what they have.

Agreed but that on its own doesn't justify recognition as above and beyond the call of duty.

Define who/what is a hero or Legend then?
Jjb grew up as a local kid who supported the team he's played for with distinction during its most successful period and has been part of a legacy of home grown players that has transformed the Club from nearly men/also rans/laughing stock to SL Champions 6 times whilst also winning 3 WCC's and appearing numerous finals.
Now he hasn't been a "bit part player" either nor a "passenger" he's played a key role during that time and earned his international call ups.
Not to mention his hours spent at community and amateur club events.
In terms of RL in Leeds and the history of our Club he is a Legend and a Local Sporting Hero.

I have already said it above. Sinfield could be defined as a legend. Achieving something no other has in our history, and was instrumental in making that all happen, whilst others hung on to his shirt tails. Robin Hood, Captain America, Spiderman, plenty of police officers, firemen, doctors, etc, can be defined as a heros, someone playing rugby is not.

There will always be hangers on in a team sport, and individuals who are paramount to what is achieved. Sinfield is the latter.

Whether someone was born in Kirkstall, or Leicester, quite frankly makes very little difference, and I don't believe would be part of any true definition of Legend or hero.

This is not restrictred to JJB, there is plenty of players over the last 10 years who have been lucky to play with some great players, especially two or three. This is about Sinfield, and why he is over and above somebody just doing their job, he has done and achieved more than that.

Absolute garbage. JJB has been as much a part of the success as Sinfield. Without his hard grafting work ethic, his ability to motivate his team mates not to mention ability to be the only permanent fixture in the starting pack for 10 years, we would not have won as much as we did.

I agree with this chap. I'd argue that Sinfield has been the mpost important player across those 10 years of success, but would put JJB not far behind.

However, it still baffles me that people get so excited about the merits of awarding these honours to people in the public eye (like sports people and entertainers). In most cases it's a publicity stunt (in some there are valid reasons based on off-field/camera). It is what it is.

There are lots of people awarded them for perfectly good reasons. I know a guy who has an MBE for services to youth work. His view was that without sundry "celebrities" being on the list, the list itself would probably not have made the papers, and he wouldn't have the page from the Times in a frame next to his presentation photo. You might also go a step further and ponder whether the list would still exist to recognise such worthy characters if it didn't also fuel the national celebrity obsession and/or assorted business cronies of the current government.

Do people deserve OBEs for playing sport? My answer is that it doesn't matter whether they do or not. It depends what you think the honours list is for.