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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "It's hard but we weren't. Leeds were well in the game at half time. The capitulation after the break would have happened with or without the controversial decisions.
Still showed plenty despite a very dominant Wire performance. Leeds will dust themselves off and be ready for another bite at the cherry.'"
So, if Briers cops a ban, confirming that he should have been sent off, meaning that had the right call been made Leeds would have been playing 12 men in the 2nd half, will you still agree we weren't robbed? Especially seeing as the try which put them in the lead before half time shouldn't have been given. I take Leeds to win going into half time at least 4 points up with a man advantage. Instead, all the momentum was sucked out of us, and we never recovered. As has already been said elsewhere, if Bailey threw a punch like that he would have been off the pitch in a matter of seconds!
If we get another crack at them via clubcall, we can take Warrington - assuming that is we get a half decent ref
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| I must admit I was shocked when I saw his appointment. But upon thinking about it, our game today was an experience game for him as it wasn't do or die. He does bottle it at times. As an example when the ball went through hills legs he was shouting "backwards" and gesturing with his arm backwards then on the try being scored he went to the VR.
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| Quote: HyperbolicRhino "So, if Briers cops a ban, confirming that he should have been sent off, meaning that had the right call been made Leeds would have been playing 12 men in the 2nd half, will you still agree we weren't robbed? Especially seeing as the try which put them in the lead before half time shouldn't have been given. I take Leeds to win going into half time at least 4 points up with a man advantage. Instead, all the momentum was sucked out of us, and we never recovered. As has already been said elsewhere, if Bailey threw a punch like that he would have been off the pitch in a matter of seconds!
If we get another crack at them via clubcall, we can take Warrington - assuming that is we get a half decent ref'"
I think Wire will pick Huddersfield
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "It's hard but we weren't. Leeds were well in the game at half time. The capitulation after the break would have happened with or without the controversial decisions.
Still showed plenty despite a very dominant Wire performance. Leeds will dust themselves off and be ready for another bite at the cherry.'"
I find it baffling that you think the game would have panned out the same if Briers had have been sent off as he should have?
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| Looks like we've got a very in form Saints to worry about first (granted KR are cack)
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "It's hard but we weren't. Leeds were well in the game at half time. The capitulation after the break would have happened with or without the controversial decisions.
Still showed plenty despite a very dominant Wire performance. Leeds will dust themselves off and be ready for another bite at the cherry.'"
Spot on. Decisions can be irritating but you have to see the bigger picture.
The leeds players didn't win 5 grand final in 6 years by dwelling on or beefing about poor decisions. Game eb and flow 50;s 50's and difficult decisions happen. You concentrate on what you control. If the leeds players have the mental toughness to forget about decisions then so can the fans.
Forget it, onwards to next week!
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "I didn't really think about the sending off at first.
What first occured to me was that briers had attacked ablett from behind when his back was turned. Cowardly.'"
Indeed mate, not good! Think the 'banter' started in last years gf. I know Ablett has a gob on him but that reaction was, as you say, cowardly
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| Quote: rhino phil "RL is just becoming a joke due to the standard of its officiating and administration. And they wonder why the play offs are being played in empty stadiums. Its because the game has descended into farce.'"
Yes your right Leeds second try was a mile forward missed by the officials
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| Quote: kim jong-il "Yes your right Leeds second try was a mile forward missed by the officials'"
Watkins hands were facing backwards when he released, but the ball drifted in mid air, and BJB was so far behind watkins when the ball was passed he had to lean forward which deceives idiots, like you. By the letter of the law it was fine, and SC said as much in commentary.
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| don't have a problem with BOTD per se, as long as it's a clear and consistent rule. That being, that referees when going to the VR are saying they believe a try has been scored, and are looking for a clear reason to disallow, in the absence of which the try will be awarded.
Clear for everyone, and reduces the stupid amount of time spent on the VR.
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| BOTD is when you can't prove they haven't scored. In this instance it was clear from the second showing. Had it not been Bentham it was a no try.
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| What with Westwood's second try, nobody has mentioned Westwood's first try, which confused me.
Westwood was stopped by another superb Hardaker tackle, put the ball down short of the line, picked it up again and plonked it over. At no point did the ball-carrying arm hit the floor, but the ball did.
Cummings on the commentary said that it's the ball-carrying arm that has to hit the floor for it to be a double-movement. but 1) is this correct? 2) if it is correct then why? He grounds the ball in a completed tackle then regrounds it further on, there's no substantive difference to double movement.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "It's the perfect thing to spark a good old fashioned siege mentality!
And stand offish, we all know the only reason you're bemoaning this is because you fear warrington more than us!'"
Well my side are not even in the play-offs, so I am not quite sure what you are chuntering about.
Nor could they be since they are in the division below.
I like Leeds, I like Warrington, I wasn't bothered who won, but I am bothered about shoite refereeing.
I hope that clears that up.
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| Quote: craigizzard "What with Westwood's second try, nobody has mentioned Westwood's first try, which confused me.
Westwood was stopped by another superb Hardaker tackle, put the ball down short of the line, picked it up again and plonked it over. At no point did the ball-carrying arm hit the floor, but the ball did.
Cummings on the commentary said that it's the ball-carrying arm that has to hit the floor for it to be a double-movement. but 1) is this correct? 2) if it is correct then why? He grounds the ball in a tackle then regrounds it further on, there's no substantive difference to double movement.'"
It was mentioned in my original post, hence the point of it all.
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| Quote: craigizzard "What with Westwood's second try, nobody has mentioned Westwood's first try, which confused me.
Westwood was stopped by another superb Hardaker tackle, put the ball down short of the line, picked it up again and plonked it over. At no point did the ball-carrying arm hit the floor, but the ball did.
Cummings on the commentary said that it's the ball-carrying arm that has to hit the floor for it to be a double-movement. but 1) is this correct? 2) if it is correct then why? He grounds the ball in a completed tackle then re-grounds it further on, there's no substantive difference to double movement.'"
Yep, I thought he said if the ball touches the ground it's tackle complete, and it did. Dodgy play the ball for the Grix try too. Also there is a Warrington player in the tackle for Westwoods second preventing Hall from getting in and securing the ball which the V.R. took no notice of but Cummings alluded to.
Yeah maybe we got some poor calls but I really don't get the impression Leeds were really that desperate to win. Once the score drifted Leeds played for fun. Should we get past Saint's I think we will see a different mentality from Leeds.
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