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Quote: G1 "I get that but IMO average players like Kirke and Moore are blocking his development, not players like Kylie and JP.

Both Kylie and JP are having immense seasons and if they want to go around again, I'm more than happy to watch them do so as they're not many (if any) playing better in the league at the moment.

If they're good enough, they're good enough whether old or young.'"


Spot on, completely agree Kyle is in great form. To blood the younsters average at best players like kirke and Moore should be going

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Quote: tvoc "Leuluai brings something no other prop at Leeds appears capable of ..... the pain.

On present form I see no reason why he shouldn't still be here next season.'"


Agree.

What a terrific signing he's been. Would be great if Achurch ends up giving us similar value.

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He's a fantastic prop, why does it matter what age he is.

He's still performing every week unlike some players (Senior, Webb etc)

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Kylie perofming every week? She should auction off her knickers at the end of the week. I'd buy a pair.

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Form wise it's a no brainer but i hope it doesn't cost us Singleton or Baldwinson long term.
Although saying that G makes a great point re-kirke and Moore i'd add that Griffin hasn't worked out either.
There is a risk that he can't/wont maintain that form though because as we've witnessed many times in the past age can catch players out and i hoe it doens't happen to Kylie.

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "My initial thought was what about the development / blooding of Brad Singleton ...'"


Singleton got blooded at Odsal with Wakey. He was terrible.

Very pleased if Kylie stays another year: good for the team, good for team spirit.

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Quote: rhinoms "Form wise it's a no brainer but i hope it doesn't cost us Singleton or Baldwinson long term.
Although saying that G makes a great point re-kirke and Moore i'd add that Griffin hasn't worked out either.
There is a risk that he can't/wont maintain that form though because as we've witnessed many times in the past age can catch players out and i hoe it doens't happen to Kylie.'"


fully agree with your first point but regards Kylie not maintaining his form i dont see it as a problem as he is only on one year deals from now,not tied to a long contract.As it stands at this moment in time he is still one of the best props in the comp. if he starts showing drastic decline by this time next season then he will be gone by the end of next year and nobody loses really.If he is still at the top of his game we maybe seeing another year extention.

A sensible way of doing things IMO.

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Wakey I think will be watching this with interest.If Leeds don't want him,I bet there will be other clubs waiting in the wings

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Quote: lionarmour87 "Wakey I think will be watching this with interest.If Leeds don't want him,I bet there will be other clubs waiting in the wings'"

Can't see Leeds saying no to be honest, but Moore kirke and griffin may make way

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Griffin I'm sure will be gone and judging by recent selection (Singleton making the 19 ahead of Moore) I'd guess that Moore would be next favourite to leave even though he's not OOC. Unlike Kirke who is but provided Kirke wants to stay then I reckon he'll be here next year.....you only have to look at how more comfortable McDermott is with using him compared to the other options.

When Kirke plays he usually replaces Leuluai around 20 mins. Vs Warrington at home with no Kirke but Moore and Singleton on the bench then Kylie does an opening stint of over 30 mins.....wouldn't have stayed on that long if McDermott had Kirke on the bench instead.

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Quote: rhinoms "Form wise it's a no brainer but i hope it doesn't cost us Singleton or Baldwinson long term.
Although saying that G makes a great point re-kirke and Moore i'd add that Griffin hasn't worked out either.
There is a risk that he can't/wont maintain that form though because as we've witnessed many times in the past age can catch players out and i hoe it doens't happen to Kylie.'"


Might depend on how much he plays, so far he's coping very well. Everything still seems to be a knock on effect of BJB being out......

BJB returns....
- Watkins returns to centre
- Ablett returns to loose
- Bailey returns to 1st sub prop
- Kirke returns to 2nd sub prop

Then we have 2 props on the bench McDermott is more comfortable with putting on the pitch.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Might depend on how much he plays, so far he's coping very well. Everything still seems to be a knock on effect of BJB being out......

BJB returns....
- Watkins returns to centre
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- Bailey returns to 1st sub prop
- Kirke returns to 2nd sub prop

Then we have 2 props on the bench McDermott is more comfortable with putting on the pitch.'"


If I heard him right McDermott said that BJB still has another 6-8 weeks recovery icon_surprised.gif

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hes having a storming season. Are him and JP egging each other on? seeing who can be the oldest MoS?!

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It's good to see both old timer props playing the best they have ever played (within memory at least). Possibly it's a sad reflection on the general SL standards that both continue to match - or even surpass - the best in the competition, but I too would be happy to see Kylie in Leeds colours next season if his present form can be guaranteed. There be the crux.

Are we not at risk of the one-season-too-far-syndrome?

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Quote: nantwichexile "It's good to see both old timer props playing the best they have ever played (within memory at least). Possibly it's a sad reflection on the general SL standards that both continue to match - or even surpass - the best in the competition, but I too would be happy to see Kylie in Leeds colours next season if his present form can be guaranteed. There be the crux.

Are we not at risk of the one-season-too-far-syndrome?'"


There is always a risk, but I don't think it would be a season too far for kylie

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