FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > brian mac fined for comments after catalans game
54 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach12106No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2015Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10393.jpg
OBN Wannabe:10393.jpg



Although the description on some media outlets (is it in the offical RFL release?) as "abuse of an official" is a bit strong...

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17134No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2020Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
193.jpg
Northampton RL....details here: //www.northamptonrl.co.uk:193.jpg



Does the fact that a team is particularly good at playing within the rules and not giving up penalties really indicate some kind of refereeing problem?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7631No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Jul 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6016_1402401129.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6016.jpg



Poor form from McDermott imo, I'm sure he's more than welcome to discuss any concerns he has with the rfl behind closed doors.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3605No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2016May 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67953_1341943970.jpg
Someday everything is gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece ---------------------------------------------------------- [url=http://garykitchen.co.uk/:lnkxkae0]Online art gallery, selling original landscape artwork[/url:lnkxkae0] ---------------------------------------------------------- [url=http://jerrychicken.wordpress.com/:lnkxkae0]JerryChicken - The Blog[/url:lnkxkae0] ----------------------------------------------------------:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67953.jpg



Quote: Tony Soprano "Poor form from McDermott imo, I'm sure he's more than welcome to discuss any concerns he has with the rfl behind closed doors.'"


Thats quite right, even the amateur leagues have the opportunity to submit a referees performance rating, in confidence, its not for public airing.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35376_1277564281.gif
[img:35s0tdes]http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/34/74/45/lr200913.gif[/img:35s0tdes]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35376.gif



Quote: Richie "Does the fact that a team is particularly good at playing within the rules and not giving up penalties really indicate some kind of refereeing problem?'"

That's clearly not the point though in our game alone it was blatant the 2 teams were reffed differently in terms of clearing the ptb and offsides etc.
I've no problem whatsoever with how we get penalised but i do expect to receive the same calls to go our way it's not asking for preferential treatment or blaming the ref for our own indiscipline just a request for both teams to be reffed the same way.
Also the Disciplinary panels review system was even more at fault following the game and those who made those calls or not in the Catalans case deserve sacking.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1755
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jan 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38511.jpg
[b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox. "He'd say if we had 13 Bernard Dwyers we wouldn't lose many RL games. It's the same for us with JJB"[/b:3v5chy3z]:38511.jpg



Quote: William Eve "Which truth hurt?

I wasn't aware McDermott had backed up his statement/opinion about Catalan's home penalty counts with actual substantiated data. He'd also need to provide data on other SL teams home penalty counts just for comparative purposes.

So where is this data?'"


all lost on the clubs laptop that was stolen icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24436
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11400_1493633977.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11400.gif



apart from 2 or 3 i felt thaler was pretty good. leeds discipline was appalling. no complaints from me

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1755
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jan 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38511.jpg
[b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox. "He'd say if we had 13 Bernard Dwyers we wouldn't lose many RL games. It's the same for us with JJB"[/b:3v5chy3z]:38511.jpg



Quote: tad rhino "apart from 2 or 3 i felt thaler was pretty good. leeds discipline was appalling. no complaints from me'"


i personally interpreted the comments that mac made was more to do with the fact that he had concerns as to why catalans consistently won the penalty count in their home games and for the past 2 seasons,i didn't believe he was solely responding to that particular game in isolation

if his facts back his statement up then that would be an alarming coincidence that they were more squeaky clean on each home game than their opponents and over a 2 year period too

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24436
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11400_1493633977.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11400.gif



maybe so but the fact is leeds discipline after that game improved massively. maybe he learnt a thing or two..........

G1
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32302No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2018Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
982.jpg
[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: JerryChicken "Thats quite right, even the amateur leagues have the opportunity to submit a referees performance rating, in confidence, its not for public airing.'"

But in the amateur leagues the coaches do not have a journalist stick a mic under the coaches nose and demand an interview immediately post match.

McDermotts interview was actually good viewing as these things go, whether we agree or not. If I were a coach I would answer every question Bill Arthur posed with "I cannot give an opinion for fear of sanction". How long would Sky put up with that? If there is going to be a post match interview I want to know what the coaches really think, not the usual sound bites and cliches, McDermott's post match interview was the only time in years I've seen that.

And I repeat IMO he was guarded enough that he didn't criticise the referee in the crass way Nathan Brown did at the weekend.

Him
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14970No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2021Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2244_1299706258.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2244.jpg



Quote: G1 "But in the amateur leagues the coaches do not have a journalist stick a mic under the coaches nose and demand an interview immediately post match. '"

Yep. And McDermott's comments don't even come close to the abuse some refs get from some coaches in the amateur game.
Quote: G1 "McDermotts interview was actually good viewing as these things go, whether we agree or not. If I were a coach I would answer every question Bill Arthur posed with "I cannot give an opinion for fear of sanction". How long would Sky put up with that? If there is going to be a post match interview I want to know what the coaches really think, not the usual sound bites and cliches, McDermott's post match interview was the only time in years I've seen that.

And I repeat IMO he was guarded enough that he didn't criticise the referee in the crass way Nathan Brown did at the weekend.'"

Agreed. And to give McDermott the same punishment as that given to Lolesi who used foul and abusive language toward the ref is unfair in my opinion.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3254No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: William Eve "Which truth hurt?

I wasn't aware McDermott had backed up his statement/opinion about Catalan's home penalty counts with actual substantiated data. He'd also need to provide data on other SL teams home penalty counts just for comparative purposes.

So where is this data?'"


Phil Clarke on Boots 'n' All stats programme the other week showed them and it showed Mac was right in what he'd claimed. Cannot remember the exact ratio but I think it was something along the lines of Catalans have been awarded 4 x as many penalties at home per game than all other home teams in SL over the last 4 seasons

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28186No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif
"As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin [url:2cg5oc2o]http://twitter.com/AndyGilder[/url:2cg5oc2o] [url:2cg5oc2o]http://fromthewesternterrace.blogspot.co.uk[/url:2cg5oc2o] This week: Four keys to a Rhinos win in the WCC:Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif



Genuine question - did the RFL fine Bernard Guasch and Trent Robinson for their "everyone is against us" rants about penalty counts after Leeds put them out of the playoffs?

Honestly can't remember.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35376_1277564281.gif
[img:35s0tdes]http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/34/74/45/lr200913.gif[/img:35s0tdes]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35376.gif



AG-No they didn't nor did they when daniel Anderson had his Ian Smith meltdow and just by coincidence Smith never reffed ST's at home again that year.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1755
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jan 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38511.jpg
[b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox. "He'd say if we had 13 Bernard Dwyers we wouldn't lose many RL games. It's the same for us with JJB"[/b:3v5chy3z]:38511.jpg



the rfl is so inconsistent,everyone clearly wants one rule for all do they not?
the above highlighted comments were far more serious indiscretions than what mac did or did not say imo
it would be funny if the next time mac was interviewed after a game by sky if he just kept replying "i can't answer that one bill"
afterall isn't that what the rfl want to hear from coaches so that they don't have to hand the fines out

54 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
54 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.8095703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4s
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
9s
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
20s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
24s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
27s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
34s
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
53s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
1m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40717
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
268
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
486
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1071
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1310
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1101
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1359
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1905
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2122
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2366
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1941
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2176
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2643
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2148
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,430 ↑1480,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4s
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
9s
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
20s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
24s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
27s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
34s
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
53s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
1m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40717
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
268
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
486
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1071
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1310
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1101
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1359
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1905
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2122
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2366
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1941
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2176
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2643
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2148


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!