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I wonder how many times since the start of the season has Vickery actually got a touch of the ball in the opposition 20m? Can hardly remember any.

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What's the betting on Achurch getting dropped for Monday?

The sort of decision our coach normally comes up with.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I wonder how many times since the start of the season has Vickery actually got a touch of the ball in the opposition 20m? Can hardly remember any.'"


I think I can remember this happening at least twice in the last two games. He put both those passes down.

There may have been another couple that he held also. Ablett appears to be playing while carrying a knock at present but he has always looked more comfortable playing on the left anyway.

As said previously I'd have favored leaving Ablett to run amok with Moon and Hall - leave Watkins on the right and come up with an alternative solution at full-back.

Here's a little thought - quite literally. If no-one is deemed capable of stepping up from within how about one of Rob Burrow or Danny McGuire? Of course that might mean Paul McShane having to play at dummy-half which it would appear might be a problem for the current coach.

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Quote: Him "I'd agree with that. I thought the props were good but the backrow was lacking a bit of go-forward and solidity in defence. Delaney didn't look his usual machine-like either.'"


Wouldn't be supprised to see Delaney missing from the Catalans game, noticed that his hamstring was taped up and he appeared to be a bit ginger on it at times.

Regarding Achurch he had a good game and I was supprised by the lack of a second stint. He appears to have shown the right sort of attitude to being dropped and worked on his game. Think he will be a dangerous player when ( or if) the pitches dry up and we get some sort of summer rugby

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Achurch did, indeed, look very good. Makes you wonder why he only got 1 stint on the pitch unlike other less impressive forwards?

On a related note, I'm not sure continually playing Ward in the 2nd row is helping his development or our team.

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Quote: G1 "Achurch did, indeed, look very good. Makes you wonder why he only got 1 stint on the pitch unlike other less impressive forwards?

On a related note, I'm not sure continually playing Ward in the 2nd row is helping his development or our team.'"



Agree entirely with that. His defence is superb and he lays his body on the line. But he far more talented and far more creative than he is given opportunities to do. Not able to express himself will definitely not aid development.

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you have to respect what BM had done but i have to say he baffles the hell out of me a lot of the time

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Quote: G1 "Achurch did, indeed, look very good. Makes you wonder why he only got 1 stint on the pitch unlike other less impressive forwards?

On a related note, I'm not sure continually playing Ward in the 2nd row is helping his development or our team.'"

I think it's no bad thing that he's exposed to the speed and physicality of the first team without the pivotal responsibilities initially.

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Quote: SBRhino "Yet he was out of position when we conceded the 40/20 and on quite a few other occasions too.
Hopefully we'll get Hardaker and BJB back soon.'"


It was on the fourth tackle IIRC.

If you think your winger should be 30 yards behind the defensive line on the fourth tackle, then you're probably on your own in that regard.

If anyone was out of position, it was Watkins. But he's not this year's scapegoat.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "It was on the fourth tackle IIRC.

If you think your winger should be 30 yards behind the defensive line on the fourth tackle, then you're probably on your own in that regard.

If anyone was out of position, it was Watkins. But he's not this year's scapegoat.'"

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So explain to me why that 40-20 was Vickery's fault and how he was "out of position"?

He was exactly where he should have been. Watkins was stood in the middle of the field, pretty much where he should have been.

It was a good kick, well placed and well executed. Just because Leeds seem to lack anyone with the vision or ability to execute 40-20s doesn't mean it has to be someone's fault defensively when they concede one.

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Vickery may not have been out of position but it is no coincidence that we are conceding 40/20s down his wing with such regularity IMO

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Quote: Seth "I think it's no bad thing that he's exposed to the speed and physicality of the first team without the pivotal responsibilities initially.'"

An excellent point and Sinfield played a lot of second row early in his career. I suppose a balance must be struck between what is best for the 1st team right now and Ward longer term. Id rather he be given some opportunity to play pivot soon though especially as I don't think McGuire has been pulling up many trees recently.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I thought the pack set a good platform. All 4 props, and Bailey played well but our 2nd row was poor, and with Ablett in the centre's we have no link between the back row and the centres, Delaney has many qualities but his passing to his right in particular is abysmal. I'd also like to see more from Stevie Ward in attack and try and link up better with Moon.'"


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