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Quote: huddersfield rhino "I have just got back from watching the worse ever performance by a Leeds side in at least twenty years, they were terrible, they had nothing upfront, the backs looked liked they had not got a clue. This kind of defeat has been coming, yes we have won the last two grand finals but they were due to stringing four results together.

It has been clear for years we needed new faces up front, but nothing done. The person who should have been the future of our front row was ripping up trees for souths on Thursday Mr Burgess, old age is rapidly catching up n the legend of McGuire. Sir Kev is not and never been a half back he is a lose forward. The forwards should have been improved in the close season, where is the replacement half back.

We lose Zak, where the cover, the coach switches one of our best attacking options in Watkins to the full back, he is not up to the job, but that is not the lads fault. We have Vickery on the wing who it is clear his team mates have no faith, because he is never passed the ball.

The team needs radical surgery now and it is clear the coach is not up to it, GH must attack now, before we struggle to finish in the top eight. I will say it again the Leeds side tonight was a disgrace'"


Whilst we played very poor tonight, I think the most pressing question tonight is.......'How much drugs/alcohol have you taken/consumed?'

P.S. And looking at the Souths teamsheet, Luke Burgess never even played for them this week.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "At the end of the day the paying spectators are entitled to a performance of a certain standard - today fell well below what should be expected'"


I don't get this 'playing to a certain standard to validate entrance fees'.......the players SHOULD play well, but because their looking to win the match.............not to make your £20 feel well spent.

At the end of the day despite what they say, paying spectators AREN'T 'entitled' to a certain performance.......it would be nice if they got one, but they aren't 'entitled' to one.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I don't get this 'playing to a certain standard to validate entrance fees'.......the players SHOULD play well, but because their looking to win the match.............not to make your £20 feel well spent.

At the end of the day despite what they say, paying spectators AREN'T 'entitled' to a certain performance.......it would be nice if they got one, but they aren't 'entitled' to one.'"


Yes they are - they are paying to watch elite sport - they should be entitled to see elite players being able to do the basics at least i.e. catch a ball and tackle. This is entertainment nothing more, if you went to a concert and the singer couldn't remember the words or the guitarist the cords you would be asking for your money back. As spectator you are not entitled to a win or flash rugby but you are entitled to the basics at least.

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Utter tripe from the OP.

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I may have become more relaxed after night sleep after last night performance. But I stick to the basic point of what I was saying. Leeds were not good enough last night, over the last two years there have been far to many performances like this. Yes we have won the GF for the last two years, that has happened because a group of players have been able to win four games in the row. The side is getting very old and needs radical surgery. I do not believe Mcdermott has the ability to do this.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Yes they are - they are paying to watch elite sport - they should be entitled to see elite players being able to do the basics at least i.e. catch a ball and tackle. This is entertainment nothing more, if you went to a concert and the singer couldn't remember the words or the guitarist the cords you would be asking for your money back. As spectator you are not entitled to a win or flash rugby but you are entitled to the basics at least.'"


I think any singer would struggle to hit the right note with 3 eighteen stone fellas dragging him to the floor or trying to take his head of icon_lol.gif . Don't think that's the best analogy to use. Any sport that is played at such a speed with such ferocity cannot guarantee that "basics" will always be achieved. I would say the basic thing we got wrong was the tactics. With Thaler playing such a "skinny" 10 metres and defences up so quickly, it was crying out for decent kicks through or over advancing defences. Huddersfield utilised such tactics and executed them well. The flat, crash ball against a stifling defence in poor conditions led to countless mistakes and little pressure or territory. Anderson 1, Mcdermott 0.

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Worst performance I've seen Leeds produce since Huddersfield away last year.

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Quote: G1 "Aye, there were literally twenty things I would have rather have been doing 5 mins into the 2nd half when it was clear our completion rate wasn't going to improve.

The players were amateurs tonight and that is disrespectful to amateurs.'"


Just look at it as the 2nd free game out of the 3 you received icon_wink.gif

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Quote: leeds owl "I think any singer would struggle to hit the right note with 3 eighteen stone fellas dragging him to the floor or trying to take his head of
Disagree - that is what elite players train for - same as musicians, to be able to perform when the pressure is on. They should be able to do the basics passing and catching no matter how many guys are around should be a given - most of the time at the point of catching no opponent is near - no excuse

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Disagree - that is what elite players train for - same as musicians, to be able to perform when the pressure is on. They should be able to do the basics passing and catching no matter how many guys are around should be a given - most of the time at the point of catching no opponent is near - no excuse'"


According to that theory Lionel Messi would never miss a penalty, Tiger Woods should never miss a 6 inch putt and an olympic long jumper would never foul jump. Messi was the worst player on the pitch the other night, yet he's cited as the best player in the world. He put a free kick 30 yards over the bar, how do you explain that. The ball is the same, the goalposts are the same size, and the wall is still 10 yards away, why did the worlds best player get the basics so wrong when 80,000 people had paid to see him ?

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Quote: ThePrinter "P.S. And looking at the Souths teamsheet, Luke Burgess never even played for them this week.'"

Bit difficult when you get ruled out for rlsix months with a shoulder injuryrl

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Quote: huddersfield rhino "I have just got back from watching the worse ever performance by a Leeds side in at least twenty years, they were terrible, they had nothing upfront, the backs looked liked they had not got a clue. This kind of defeat has been coming, yes we have won the last two grand finals but they were due to stringing four results together.

It has been clear for years we needed new faces up front, but nothing done. The person who should have been the future of our front row was ripping up trees for souths on Thursday Mr Burgess, old age is rapidly catching up n the legend of McGuire. Sir Kev is not and never been a half back he is a lose forward. The forwards should have been improved in the close season, where is the replacement half back.

We lose Zak, where the cover, the coach switches one of our best attacking options in Watkins to the full back, he is not up to the job, but that is not the lads fault. We have Vickery on the wing who it is clear his team mates have no faith, because he is never passed the ball.

The team needs radical surgery now and it is clear the coach is not up to it, GH must attack now, before we struggle to finish in the top eight. I will say it again the Leeds side tonight was a disgrace'"

Let me get this straight,Leeds are champions,playing decent rugby,but lose a game,so the world is coming to an end?
Okaaaaaay...............

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There are no excuses coming from the club about last night , it was a shocker end of . Are Warrington fans calling for Smith to go after 2 losses in a week ? I doubt it . This thread is Knee-jerk of the highest order , embarrassing .

This is a proud bunch of players under a coach who has produced silverware and finals aplenty under his tenure and as such deserve a little slack after a poor performance .

To be beaten by a good side sitting top of the league and coming off a defeat where they had their pants royally pulled down by Bradford is no shame , how we react next week is what counts .

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Yup. Thats how I see it.

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Quote: Harrigan "Just look at it as the 2nd free game out of the 3 you received icon_biggrin.gif That just leaves one more doesn't it?

I don't expect to win, I'm more than happy to lose if it's a quality game (aside from finals which should be win at all costs). But it has to be said, and I've been saying it during McDermott's tenure, that paying spectators really do have to question the value of a season ticket.

I'm not calling for players or coaches heads. If this season mirrors the last two I will be very happy overall and last night will be easily forgotten, just as the early season losses to the Giants were in 2011 and 2012. I wouldn't swap 2012 or 2011 for a season like the Giants.

However, win lose or draw the quality of rugby, the "entertainment" on offer at Headingley has been very much below par in McDermott's tenure far too many times to make a season ticket any value.

For three or so years I've reconciled my purchase with the fact that it's a social activity and I went with the lad. But he's gone off to Uni and I can be sociable at the pub whilst watching the game on Sky. Then, when it gets to October with the money I've saved I might just start paying to watch some decent rugby.

I'm not there yet and there is some distance left in the season but I am getting perilously close. Others I know have already taken the step.

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