OMG - the Beeb have still got Ray French commentating - the guy's 73 years old!!

Not going to defend French and Davies, but Woods is a better commentator than any Sky have to offer. Balding is a better presenter than any Sky have to offer. Noble is a more useful man to have around than, say, Phil Clarke.

Yes Sky have better camera angles and graphics, as a result of the cost efficiency of covering the sport more, but what do they do with it? Give it to Hemmings and Clarke to misinterpret and b*llock on about.

for f*cks sake when are they going to get rid of that rat ray french?

French is by all accounts a very nice man. He knows loads about RL, both past *and* present, and can speak and write engagingly about it. However he's an absolutely terrible broadcaster.

I thought I'd gone back in time to the 80's. Davies has turned into a less knowledgable Alex Murphy. Their discussion during the video ref deliberations for Carvell's try was breathtaking.

Eddie Waring lives on

Two players, both tackled short of the line, their ball carrying arms both hit the floor while they have defenders in contact with them although their forward momentum is never stopped.

Both players make a second effort to lift their arm from the floor in order to reposition the ball so they can ground it over the try-line.

So how is one a double movement, and the other not? If officials can't get simple decisions like those right (and for the record, Ganson did and Ian Smith didn't IMO) then they don't deserve the job they have.

Davies it said fractured BOTH his arms falling off his bike whilst practising for a charity ride. Now i can completely understand doing one arm as you fall one way of a bike, but BOTH? That takes some talent.

Agree AG it's times like this when the RFL should drag Cummins into a meeting and ask him just WTF he's doing with these officials and then give the t!t his p45 and send for Greg Mcallum.

the only good thing to say about the French and Davies commentaries is that although they are terrible they are nowhere near as bad as French and Murphy used to be.
Agree about Stubbs, he just concentrates on describing what he sees without the opinion or the self-indulgent banter we get fromthe likes of Stevo and Eddy. As for Clarke and his statistics -please, please, no more.