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Quote: ThePrinter "Wouldn't put Tomkins at 6 until he plays there again at club level, which could actually happen in 2013 if Wigan can't bring in replacements for Finch and Leuluai in the halves and they go for playing Matty Russell at Fullback. If you were to move Tomkins now that also bring up the question of who would then play at 1 now? In 12 months time the likes of Eden, Russell, Hardaker (if moved there by Leeds), Makinson (if he replaces Wellens at Saints) all possiblities but not quite yet.

Some fans of other teams are really upset by Ablett inclusion and i could understand about being starting centre but i think he'd be a good choice for subs bench, a back row option who could slot in the three quaters quite comfortably if you get an injury in the backs.

People are also bemoaning the Leeds selections by saying the team isn't on form atm (1 win 4 losses), whilst at the same time the same people are calling for Brough from Huddersfield (5 losses on the trot) to be played instead. I'm not saying all the Leeds players should be picked, would rather see Mossop in place of Peacock with possibly Hill from Wire on the bench, and obviously JJB benefitted from no Westwood, Burgess, Ellis. As for the centre position Reed is almost certain to play when he's available and Watkins too if fit before any possible Goulding or Cudjoe selection so i'm not too bother by that one.'"


Printer for England coach icon_biggrin.gif ...you make far more sense in your selections than yet another incumbent hopeless hapless coach.

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Shame Watkins is injured again. He would have looked good partnering Atkins.

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Ablett is a fanatstic player (who is in a poor run of form these last three or so games). His place is fully deserved. He's a better rugby player than any fit alternative for the centre. Cudjoe may be a better athlete but he doesn't have an ounce of Ablett's rugby skills.

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Surely you would put Goulding in at centre ahead of Ablett, he has formed a good partnership with Charnley who has been selected on the wing!! Sinfield is not a SL 6 let alone an international 6. Chase looked lost last year and hasnt excelled this year so i dont know why he is selected. JP is lacking at SL level so he wont be much good against the exiles let alone the Aussies. Surely this game is part of the preparation for the world cup in which case why is JP playing and why havnt more youngsters been given a shot?

Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Atkins Hall
Lomax Brough
Crabtree Roby Mossop
Hock JJB
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Burrow, Prescott, Hill, Tickle

Something along those lines is what i would have gone with!!

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Surely you would put Goulding in at centre ahead of Ablett, he has formed a good partnership with Charnley who has been selected on the wing!! Sinfield is not a SL 6 let alone an international 6. Chase looked lost last year and hasnt excelled this year so i dont know why he is selected. JP is lacking at SL level so he wont be much good against the exiles let alone the Aussies. Surely this game is part of the preparation for the world cup in which case why is JP playing and why havnt more youngsters been given a shot?

Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Atkins Hall
Lomax Brough
Crabtree Roby Mossop
Hock JJB
O'Loughlin

Burrow, Prescott, Hill, Tickle

Something along those lines is what i would have gone with!!'"



Again you make more sense than our incumbent buffoon.....although I would draw the line at Crabtree and Tickle icon_lol.gif Pretty desperate barrel scraping in some positions I'm afraid. Ablett is just a little better than Tickle for international status I would suggest.

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Take out the likes of Charnley and Tomkins, and this must be close to the oldest England side since Peter Fox's Dads Army of 1978. Planning for next year's World Cup is clearly well under way. Steve McNamara - the little coach that couldn't.

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Absolutely spot on.
Half that team or more are either not good enough or wont be around for the World Cup.
We would be better letting the England team play the Exiles in one game and then play the Knights in another.
Back to the old Rugby Union fixture that had the Probabales versus the Possibles.

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Quote: G1 "Ablett is a fanatstic player (who is in a poor run of form these last three or so games). His place is fully deserved. He's a better rugby player than any fit alternative for the centre. Cudjoe may be a better athlete but he doesn't have an ounce of Ablett's rugby skills.'"


I don't disagree. However, I do wish Ablett would play to his potential more often than he does. Too often for me he's just solid when he has the skill to be so much more. He's 26 now and its time he started to develop into the player his ability warrants.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Take out the likes of Charnley and Tomkins, and this must be close to the oldest England side since Peter Fox's Dads Army of 1978. Planning for next year's World Cup is clearly well under way. Steve McNamara - the little coach that couldn't.'"


Who would you have in instead of some of the dads army?

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Sadly Lomax is out injured, otherwise he would certainly have been one. Darrell Goulding, as others have mentioned. Michael McIlorum, Jermaine McGillvary and Mark Flanagan have all shown up well this season.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Sadly Lomax is out injured, otherwise he would certainly have been one. Darrell Goulding, as others have mentioned. Michael McIlorum, Jermaine McGillvary and Mark Flanagan have all shown up well this season.'"


Couldn't agree more.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Sadly Lomax is out injured, otherwise he would certainly have been one. Darrell Goulding, as others have mentioned. Michael McIlorum, Jermaine McGillvary and Mark Flanagan have all shown up well this season.'"


In place of whom? Goulding in place of Ablett (he's only a year younger than Ablett) is fair enough on form. Lomax for Sinfield again fair enough, but I doubt Lomax will be Saints long term SH nevermind England's. Do you really think McClorum is a better option from the bench than Burrow? McGillvery before Hall?

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Goulding is playing in a better team than Ablett is at the moment. I don't think that necessarily makes him a better player.

Burrow is there to change the tempo off the bench, I don't see McIlorum doing that in the same way.

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will be interesting to see how many of the NRL lads are in the team for the world cup

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