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Gary H coming out with the comment , has this team run its course, not very helpful . These remarks should be between him and the coach ,not exactly what the team needed going into a tough match at the wire. After all Gary watches these players week in week out and takes part in all contract negotiations.

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: loinertillidie "That's just it. No big signings, no crazy South Stand expansion, healthy balance sheet.

And call me a believist, but until it wasn't on, I actually thought Leeds would pull it back.

Siddall away for me tomorrow if anybody needs a fix. 1430 kick off.'"


The stupid thing is if we'd executed a little bit better and Lunt had kept hold of the ball, o brien hadn't scored a freak try, then even after a horrible 15 minutes we could have competed.

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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "A game and a team that, as a fully functioning adult, I and alot of other people spend alot of time and money on watching and supporting.'"

So do you, as a fully functioning adult, seriously think like bfdbull1979 (I sincerely hope that's not his year of birth) that it is unacceptable for any team to ever be better than Leeds?
Seriously? As a grown-up adult?

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It's fine. Just as it's fine for passionate supporters to not think it's fine.

LTID is above such things.

What a guy!

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Quote: King Street Cat "I was telling a Rhinos fan a similar thing the other day, don't think it got through but I did try. Leeds haven't necessarily got worse, it's just the teams around them have got better... much better.'"


Are you serious?

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Its sport, so its always OK not to be the best team at some time or other. What's not Ok is putting up p*ss poor performances when you can do much better - especially at home.

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I think unacceptable is the wrong word, i can accept when a team is better than the one i support but you should never be satisfied that they are.

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Quote: loinertillidie "Since 2004 there has been a definite swing towards it being unacceptable for any other team to actually have better tactics, better game awareness, better fitness, more hunger, more desire and actually beat the Leeds Rhinos.

When I say unacceptable, I mean it's unacceptable for any other team to have better tacticians, educators, coaches, dietitians and motivators than those employed at Leeds. There always has to be something wrong, McD out, Lowes out, Burrow in etc etc etc.

Is it possible do you think that Leeds fans can put their self awarded God given right to win all the time aside and actually watch their team and enjoy it for the sport it's supposed to be.

Or am I being simplistic?'"


So what you're saying is "do you think it is ok to accept mediocrity?"

Well I'm not going to make any apologies when I say NO. I don’t want to believe that there is any team better than Leeds. That’s what makes me a Leeds fan. But then again your loyalties have shifted somewhat in recent years haven’t they?

I will always believe that we are a better club than any other because that’s the mentality of a supporter. I have no “God given right” to think that we will win all the time but that’s what I hope will happen.
If you want to accept the fact that there’s nothing wrong at Leeds then that’s your God give right but I see a Championship winning side consistently underperforming. You obviously see it differently.

I love watching Rugby League and you have no God given right to tell me how to “enjoy it for the sport (YOU think) it’s supposed to be”

From where I stand, you are Dewsbury fan with a confused user name trying to troll the Leeds board.

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As an outsider,love Leeds or hate Leeds,the style of play for me has always been good to watch.The last few games I have seen,(Hull at the K.C. ,Wigan and Wire on the telly) it seems Leeds have been steamrollered from the beginning of the game.
Is this because the coach has no answer to this tactic,or indeed some of your squad are aging? No doubt someone will say I am talking crap,but as it was said on Catchphrase,"Say what you see."

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[b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches. [b:1e1swnry]Seventies red wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Whats a biatch?. [b:1e1swnry]gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] They wear red and white and cry a lot in October.:6553.gif



Quote: Fat Boy "So what you're saying is "do you think it is ok to accept mediocrity?"

Well I'm not going to make any apologies when I say NO. I don’t want to believe that there is any team better than Leeds. That’s what makes me a Leeds fan. But then again your loyalties have shifted somewhat in recent years haven’t they?

I will always believe that we are a better club than any other because that’s the mentality of a supporter. I have no “God given right” to think that we will win all the time but that’s what I hope will happen.
If you want to accept the fact that there’s nothing wrong at Leeds then that’s your God give right but I see a Championship winning side consistently underperforming. You obviously see it differently.

I love watching Rugby League and you have no God given right to tell me how to “enjoy it for the sport (YOU think) it’s supposed to be”

From where I stand, you are Dewsbury fan with a confused user name trying to troll the Leeds board.'"


Nobody is telling you how to watch anything. And i am certainly not ABOVE feelings of irritation as G1 suggests, yes I am primarily a Dewsbury fan but I have been around on this board for nearly ten years and that isn't going to change.

My point is that some Leeds fans expect to win, every time, and whine like schoolchildren when they either don't win by plenty or don't win at all. I grew up going to games I expected to lose, and took pleasure from either winning, or even just competing.

I was able to enjoy last nights game as a result, I bet you didn't.

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Some fair points loiner re-Some expecting to win every game and i'd guess most if not all of those started following us in 04 or at the start of 07.
However there's nowt wrong imo from expecting to compete every week and there's nowt wrong in questioning the Coaches and Players when they churn out the dross like against Wigan ,St's and the 1st 30 minutes like last night.
I thought we did ok after the 1st 30 minutes but the start was disgraceful for that team who are capable and should be showing much better win lose or draw.

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[b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches. [b:1e1swnry]Seventies red wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Whats a biatch?. [b:1e1swnry]gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] They wear red and white and cry a lot in October.:6553.gif



Quote: rhinoms "Some fair points loiner re-Some expecting to win every game and i'd guess most if not all of those started following us in 04 or at the start of 07.
However there's nowt wrong imo from expecting to compete every week and there's nowt wrong in questioning the Coaches and Players when they churn out the dross like against Wigan ,St's and the 1st 30 minutes like last night.
I thought we did ok after the 1st 30 minutes but the start was disgraceful for that team who are capable and should be showing much better win lose or draw.'"


This isn't really aimed at anyone with anything cogent to say. But as I type this there is a thread describing Sinfield as a defensive weak link and Peacock as a spent force, a thread advocating the entire youth team be drafted in, a McD out thread, a waste of money thread and the Burrow in thread.
Need I say more?

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Quote: loinertillidie "This isn't really aimed at anyone with anything cogent to say. But as I type this there is a thread describing Sinfield as a defensive weak link and Peacock as a spent force, a thread advocating the entire youth team be drafted in, a McD out thread, a waste of money thread and the Burrow in thread.
Need I say more?'"


No, you really don't.

Amusing as your gormless prattle is on a wet Saturday morning, this season so far has been a great disappointment, so if it's all the same to you, in best Danny tradition.....Jog On

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[b:1e1swnry]Fat Boy wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Bradford are now officially the RFL's biatches. [b:1e1swnry]Seventies red wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] Whats a biatch?. [b:1e1swnry]gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:[/b:1e1swnry] They wear red and white and cry a lot in October.:6553.gif



Quote: BillyRhino "No, you really don't.

Amusing as your gormless prattle is on a wet Saturday morning, this season so far has been a great disappointment, so if it's all the same to you, in best Danny tradition.....Jog On'"


Bless. As coherent as usual Billy. Rough night? I liked the gormless. Made you sound almost convincing.

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Quote: loinertillidie "Since 2004 there has been a definite swing towards it being unacceptable for any other team to actually have better tactics, better game awareness, better fitness, more hunger, more desire and actually beat the Leeds Rhinos.

When I say unacceptable, I mean it's unacceptable for any other team to have better tacticians, educators, coaches, dietitians and motivators than those employed at Leeds. There always has to be something wrong, McD out, Lowes out, Burrow in etc etc etc.

Is it possible do you think that Leeds fans can put their self awarded God given right to win all the time aside and actually watch their team and enjoy it for the sport it's supposed to be.

Or am I being simplistic?'"


But that's the same for wigan fans, for saints, for the gans of any big club. If they aren't competing, there is drive to make sure they are.

You can't just accept mediocrity, that's ridiculous.

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