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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "The degree of loyalty being shown towards Super League's most infamous F-TB is sickeningly predictable on this forum.'"


But not quite as sickeningly predictable as the huge spike in your post count after a Rhinos' defeat

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Dave Lister "Desperate shame that Hardaker is considered the future at Leeds. Ouch.'"


To be fair i think Ward is more considered the future than anyone, but Hardaker is seen as being a big player for us in the future and can still be if he's used and coached correctly. I think everybody knows now that he shouldn't stay in the centres for much longer but the lad is talented i personally thought at the beginning of the season that he should end up in one of the pivot positions like full back because he does have that x-factor about him that would be better suited there.

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I'd like to see Hardaker at fullback but at the minute he couldn't just slot straight in because Webb plays like an extra half and Hardaker can't even pass to his winger let alone throw cut out passes. Leeds would have to change their whole approach on attack because Hardaker at fullback with McGuire and Sinfield as the halves would mean we are even less creative than we are at the minute. Ward to loose (or Sinfield back to loose with Ward at 6) could potentially allow it to happen. What is Ward's best position? 6 or 13?

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Stevie Ward is back in the 19 man squad for friday barring any injuries in training this week

I would like to see him start at either 6 or 13 and with Burrow given a start at 7 to see how he takes his chance there rather than just putting Stevie at 7 merely so that he is out on the park

Regardind how they would shape up defensively if all 3 were on the field at the same time.IMO i would have Sinny defending more down the middle than out wide where he is more vulnerable

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would like to see Chisolm or Keinhorst be given a chance, if anything just too add some pace to the right wing if Bjb isnt fit.

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Good to hear TBB hopefully he'll continue to show his potential and cement a place in the 17 for the rest of the year.

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It was stated in the programe for the Wigan game that Ward was about to start his A levels for the next couple of weeks then would start fulltime training with the 1st team squad. That may explain his absence the ladt couple of months.

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would definitely put ward back into team at 13, and i dont agree with moving zak out of the centres i would move him to right centre then when he does use his very good side step he is taking the ball to his winger an will therefore be easier for him to pass to his winger (BJB) and in turn promote young keinhorst to left centre and allow ablett to move back into the SR and hope webb can get his act together at FB

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Quote: bjs16 "would definitely put ward back into team at 13, and i dont agree with moving zak out of the centres i would move him to right centre then when he does use his very good side step he is taking the ball to his winger an will therefore be easier for him to pass to his winger (BJB) and in turn promote young keinhorst to left centre and allow ablett to move back into the SR and hope webb can get his act together at FB'"


i'd agree on that line up in the threequarters and let's face it Webb IS unlikely to be dropped.

However these changes are not going to solve anything. The forwards are a much more substantial problem.....and the coach's methods and ability to motivate/inspire are the biggest problem of all. If the CEO won't dispense with his services, sack the CEO.

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ye there is no way mcdermott will drop webb although he should until he learns to keep his mouth shut and start playing the way he can.

in the forwards i have been worried all season with moore and griffin coming in were the most impressive of signing and havent proved me wrong, but he cant change that now all he can do is move bailey back to LF cause i dont think he will bring ward back in for such a big game but bring in singleton instead of moore

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...and for remainder of season.

Webb (Hardaker as soon as Watkins is fit again)
BJB
Hardaker
Hall
Chisholm
Ward
McGuire (Burrow)
Amor
McShane for his M.O.M. performance.......oops, sorry, Lunt
Delaney
JJB
Bailey
Sinfield

Burrow (Hood)
Singleton
Ablett
Ambler

I think all would agree that offers a nice blend of youth and experience. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nantwichexile "...and for remainder of season.

Webb (Hardaker as soon as Watkins is fit again)
BJB
Hardaker
Hall
Chisholm
Ward
McGuire (Burrow)
Amor
McShane for his M.O.M. performance.......oops, sorry, Lunt
Delaney
JJB
Bailey
Sinfield

Burrow (Hood)
Singleton
Ablett
Ambler

I think all would agree that offers a nice blend of youth and experience.
Yes it does and I'd like to see Chisholm get a start, but to suggest that he (or anyone else for that matter) should be there for the rest of the season on the basis of exactly zero performances is frankly quite ludicrous.

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Quote: Chief Stinkwort "Yes it does and I'd like to see Chisholm get a start, but to suggest that he (or anyone else for that matter) should be there for the rest of the season on the basis of exactly zero performances is frankly quite ludicrous.'"


Perhaps I was a little clumsy in my vernacular..... icon_wink.gif

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Griffin was always a good player for Huddersfield and he looked fine at the beginning of the season but has been dicked around and not given proper minutes, rather like Burgess last season. He was our best forward vs. the Wigan pack at the JJB so it's a bit mysterious that he doesn't get to have a go at them at HQ, although maybe all the zip and confidence has been coached out of him by now.

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Quote: nantwichexile "If the CEO won't dispense with his services, sack the CEO.'"


As long as the present owner remains I see no possibility of a change in CEO unless the CEO himself wishes it.

Makes you wonder how much of Leeds' profitability rests on SL performance. My guess is not as much as some 'ordinary fan in the street' might like it to.

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