What a shame they couldn't get their club organised enough to actually be able to fulfill the fixture list without b[ii[/itching & whining. Grade A licence, my .

I'm getting sick of petulant, ill informed club chairmen embarrasing the sport with their churlish tantrums. Add Lenegan to the list of Pearson, Hood and Hudgell.

We're very lucky to be led by GH.

We are. Although in fairness Lenagan is chairman in name only. Dave Whelan is the man with real clout.

It's like amateur hour with all these chairmen/CEOs of tinpot, loss making, non-stadium-owning clubs trying to pass their own failings onto the easy target of the Rugby Football League. Good on them for replying to Leneghan's nonsense.

If, as a club boss, you're going to rlpublicly complain about something the governing body has done then it's beholden on you to get resultsrl. Otherwise it's just a waste of valuable Red Hall credits.

Where's this weeks 'Obsessed with Wigan' thread?

Ahh... found it.

In a sense this post captures the key reason running the RFL must be a nightmare...stupid chairmen with highly personal agenda's coupled with financial and marketing illiteracy ... a recipe for stasis that bloke Lewis did a remarkably good job in the circumstances.

Oh and any claim Wigan may have ever had to be the 'biggest club' in Super League is clearly laughable

I wonder if Wigan had much say when the negotiations took place about probable clashing of fixtures?or was it a case of 'your skint you can come and play here on our terms,beggars cant be chooser's'

There is also an underlying point that a person who makes a success in one business venture generally tends to think that they achieved that through having some sort of Holy Grail type knowledge on how all businesses should be run - whereas the truth often boils down to the fact that they got lucky the first time around and it might not work the second time, or third, or fourth around.

There is a saying in business that you don't have to scratch too deep beneath EVERY successful CEO of any organisation to find (usually) a string of failed business ventures, most are quite happy to admit the fact.

The problem starts when such a person buys their way into a sporting venture which is often seen to them to be a plaything, a private club where they can act out a fantasy and show off to other CEO's of other companies, its a vanity thing and their business sense goes out of the window the minute they park their car in front of the main stand in their own private parking space.

There is also the delicate issue of marketing and there is no doubt that the most successful business people surround themselves with experts in the countless other fields that exist within any retail or manufacturing business - you don't think that Alan Sugar actually knows how a micro-processor works do you, he came into business with an ability to sell stuff literally in a market, failed several times along the way and got lucky several times along the way, but he probably hasn't got a clue what went on inside the cover of his most successful products, the secret was, he employed people who did.

Sometimes these business people bring successful marketing ideas to their sporting clubs with them but other times they seem to forget that they need to buy in customers to their sporting businesses in the same way that they do with their other products, sometimes they just fall into the lazy trap of assuming that sports fans will just keep coming every week no matter how much you charge or how poor your product is and to an extent its true - how many times would you go back to Subway if the bread was mouldy and they charged you £2 for the same sandwich as the guy in front of you just because you were not from the town in which the shop is based ?

Alan Sugar once said "if you want to make money buy a business, if you want to lose money buy a football club".

Agree with all......except I wouldn't go back to Subway if they charged me 2 quid less then the guy in front!

Maybe I'm missing the point but Warriors have been asked to play on Saturday, Athletic on Sunday. Why is this a problem at all?!?

I think it is something to do with Premier League rules that require a clear period before a a PL soccer game ...

I think many of us are missing the real question, perhaps one that should be asked of Wigan and the minor fact that they once had a perfectly good ground of their own. A ground with suitable capacity to hold a game of such magnitude and indeed a stadium used on many occasions for representative games.

Why do Wigan not have access to such a ground any more, I wonder ?

Apparently there is a wedding on Saturday in the North Stand so they can't use it. Don't know if that's true but if it is they really need to readdress the terms of their lease!

Its what happens when you leave a bookmaker in charge of the firm, ultimately he's a punter just like all the rest and just like all of his clients, one day he'll put the family home on a dead cert and lose the lot.