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I thought that due to three of our most pivotal players missing in McGuire,Burrow and Webb that we were far too predictable in attack, we didn't have enough variation out there.

I thought JP, Moore and Griff made some good impact up the middle

I don't know if it is just me but we look like a side that has dropped it's intensity a quite a few notches, we all know you can't play every week and over a whole season with this high tempo and intensity as you have nothing left in the tank at the back end of the season.

I thought Ward had a very good game, he made some wrong calls at times,but his defense and his running were very good

I would like to see him play when the three players above are back where we could stick him on in the back row so he can run off those guys plays as well as playing some footy of his own

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No doubt it will be the youngsters who get the blame, or indeed with many of the supporters on here it will be Smith.

Thought we were clueless with ball and no composure at all. Had we thought about it a bit more I am confident we would have scored a lot more points.

Thought BJB looked very good with ball in hand, but an absolute turnstile in defence, regardless of the kick try.

Hall looks in desperate need of a rest. Looked very unfit. Looked laboured and overweight. Thought Huddersfield knew what they were doing kicking to him most times.

As expected the hooker position is starting to look a bit of an issue for us. Thought McShane was poor in all honesty. We looked better when Hood came on, but think that was more down to the stage of the game been more tired legs, and I think his defence is worse than McShanes.

Main issue for me is the poor backrow options. With Ablett at Loose, there is no attacking threat whatsover from the backrow. People can laud up Delaney all they like, but they forget the massive gaps he leaves, and the fact that for all his yards he is not capable of passing a ball, using footwork, or looking even the slightest bit threatening. Clarkson is just a mirror image, of making the tackles when in front of him, but no threat whatsoever.

Ward for me was brilliant, and IMO the man of the match considering his experience to others.

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Quote: Gotcha "Hall looks in desperate need of a rest. Looked very unfit. Looked laboured and overweight. Thought Huddersfield knew what they were doing kicking to him most times.'"


Sometimes I wonder if I was watching the same game as you.

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Terrible game - very poor standard, the number of simple mistakes made by both sides was far too many for elite level.

Virtually every Huddersfield try came from a line break down the middle of the defence. Smith got a lot of stick last week but BJB was much worse this week. The frustrating thing is we have two potent attacking players in Hall and Watkins and both hardly got any ball. Hardaker seems to have got second season syndrome and his play has stagnated, I am sure he will improve but at the moment his form isn't helping matters. The attack - Ward apart - looked pedestrian at best.

The hooking position also needs addressing - McShane doesn't appear to be the answer, his silly elbow in the face lead to the first try and his attacking options were poor all night. Burrow has the attacking capability but he can't lead the defensive line as a hooker should do and Hood looks a little lightweight at the moment.

Finally I lost count of the number of plays were both Peacock and Kylie were not available to take the ball up because they hadn't made it back into the attacking line. McDermott needs to re-think having both on the field at the same time. Kylie's second spell was a disaster his defence was appalling.

On a positive - Ward looks like a throwback - a loose forward with speed, good hands and excellent footwork, it would interesting to see him Sinfield and McGuire on the field at the same time.

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If you thought Hall was anything above poor last night then I don't believe you actually went. Not blaming him, as I thought Huddersfield targetted him to tire him. But he looked really lethargic.

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Quote: Gotcha "If you thought Hall was anything above poor last night then I don't believe you actually went.'"


Playing outside Hardaker is doing him no favours tbh.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Playing outside Hardaker is doing him no favours tbh.'"



Don't dissagree with that. But it's without ball I was more concerned about, and how slow he was getting back for kicks, how slow he was turning around, and how hesitant he looked with the kicks.

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Quote: Gotcha "Don't dissagree with that. But it's without ball I was more concerned about, and how slow he was getting back for kicks, how slow he was turning around, and how hesitant he looked with the kicks.'"


He looks too bulked up to me - there must be limit as to how big someone can get with it affecting their speed and mobility

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In all fairness what options did BMD have last night, 3 of our key attacking options all injured left us with 2 loose forwards at half back. It left us with no spark or speed when in came creating chances.
I thought the pack (with exeption of kirke) played alot better than last week but we were always going to struggle in the halfs.
We have the most exciting back line in super league but we seem unable to use it. Anyone thinking BJB is webbys long term successor needs to watch the game again, Stick to the wing with Watkins and we'll be alright.
When we get all three back and a couple of forwards it'll start looking bright again, hopefully against a charged up bankrupt bulls on friday.


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Sal-Re Hardaker i think you been a bit harsh on the lad he's rarely had chance to get Hall away with the ball in real space and his performances overall hardly point to 2nd season syndrome imo.
There are issues with the lack of quality ball both Hardaker and Watkins are getting and then the knock on effect to the Wingers lacking good supply hopefully that will be adressed when Webb ,Mcguire and Burrow return.

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Last nights game along with our visit to St Helens shows more than anything what a huge loss Mcguire is when he's missing. Obviously Burrow gives you something different in attack and Webb chimes in well but last night reminded me of many games in 2011 where we looked absolutely clueless without Mcguire. Our attacking was laboured and lateral last night, by the time our centres/wingers received the ball they were nearly always outnumbered. Whenever a player looked like making a break there was invariably nobody on his shoulder supporting. Another worrying aspect regarding Mcguires unavailability is our abysmal kicking game. Mcguire may not be Danny Brough, but our kick options and execution let Huddersfield off the hook time and time again. Broughs booming 40/20 is something we can only dream of at Headingley. We have enjoyed great success recently despite our kicking game not because of it. On the plus side I thought Ward was our most inventive player and Moore showed he should be in the 17 every week on current form. Still, nowt's won in March, just ask Huddersfield. If they were a man they'd be down the doctors with premature ejaculation.

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Quote: rhinoms "Sal-Re Hardaker i think you been a bit harsh on the lad he's rarely had chance to get Hall away with the ball in real space and his performances overall hardly point to 2nd season syndrome imo.
There are issues with the lack of quality ball both Hardaker and Watkins are getting and then the knock on effect to the Wingers lacking good supply hopefully that will be adressed when Webb ,Mcguire and Burrow return.'"


I think he is a natural full back and not a centre he is playing out of position and it is beginning to show as the better sides target him - not for the first time this season his defence last night was poor and we might as well not play with a winger outside him in the attacking plays. The fact Hall doesn't get the ball in real space is because Hardaker isn't capable of creating that space for him.

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Quote: leeds owl "Last nights game along with our visit to St Helens shows more than anything what a huge loss Mcguire is when he's missing. Obviously Burrow gives you something different in attack and Webb chimes in well but last night reminded me of many games in 2011 where we looked absolutely clueless without Mcguire. Our attacking was laboured and lateral last night, by the time our centres/wingers received the ball they were nearly always outnumbered. Whenever a player looked like making a break there was invariably nobody on his shoulder supporting. Another worrying aspect regarding Mcguires unavailability is our abysmal kicking game. Mcguire may not be Danny Brough, but our kick options and execution let Huddersfield off the hook time and time again. Broughs booming 40/20 is something we can only dream of at Headingley. We have enjoyed great success recently despite our kicking game not because of it. On the plus side I thought Ward was our most inventive player and Moore showed he should be in the 17 every week on current form. Still, nowt's won in March, just ask Huddersfield. If they were a man they'd be down the doctors with premature ejaculation.'"


You can't say that on here - as long as Sinfield plays that should be good enough just ask GI icon_biggrin.gif Glad to see we are not missing Buderus either eh Gareth?

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Last night was a good result.

We don't want to use up too much of our set allocation of good form.

Saints were looking very danngerous until the last few weeks. What huddersfield are playing at i'm sure, but at this rate they won't have a big enough allocation of good form for the playoffs.

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