Patten's a cracking full back imho - if I had the time to watch more NRL then maybe I could have appreciated him in his prime!

He was lucky not to be sin binned though - he held McGuire down for an age.

As for McGuire not passing - meh. What was the score at that point...

A half back backing himself, disgrace.

Patten did well to re-set his body position and quickly track back. Wellens would have been left on the floor.

Surprised no-one has mentioned the BJB pass from dummy half from that PTB, my new-born could distribute swifter!! BJB can't pass but loves to kick on it seems.

Nope I think it is in his nature to go for the line himself and only look to pass as a last resort. ... There are countless examples of this, which before his major injury paid dividends.

It is not a bad thing to have a hunger to score tries...but the lad has to recognise he has not now got that exceptional pace to burn.

I did use the word ' could ' !!

It's 'have' not 'of' by the way

Not that I would rather see Smith in his position but yep you're right. Great pace to skin his first would be tackler on the outside but worse finishing ability than Donald. ( i am overlooking his try in the cup last year against Tom Briscoe ).

Begs the question is BJB a winger ??

But are there countless examples of him wrongly backing himself - surely that's all that matters? I can't think of any glaring ones.

To be fair passing isn't the most pressing attribute for a winger.

I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek, I like BJB. He got a reality check earlier in year, which i said would make him better in the long term, and has more than taken his chances since his arrival back in the team.

When looking at BJB, you have to look at his bond/partnership with Watkins, it f-in works!! Great partnership.

I was thinking more of finishing ability rather than his passing.

He would make a great RU winger with his inclination to kick for the line.

Bjb break and pass inside to burrow for a try was fine.

IMO McGuire took the wrong option. It stood out by way of its rarity. I don't reckon he'll ever be as quick as he used to but his all round play is far, far better these days.

I thought his kick whilst running at speed was exquisite and the best piece of individual skill of the whole night. It's good to have that particular skill in your locker to keep defenders guessing, not enough players utilise the kick past opponents nowadays. Anyone can kick a ball, but to weight it like BJB did at Cardiff last season and last night takes some doing. Maybe they could use him down at elland Road.

He's not [ithat[/i bad!