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Quote: Fieldheadrhino "I agree withyou totally.

Regardless of peoples thoughts on the conflict in Afganhistan, the least people can do is shut up and be quiet for 60 seconds, to think about what those lads were doing for the benifit of the rest of us.'"


Benefit of the rest of us? How so?

Also with most of the lads involved I bet most them wern't old enough to remember when the war started and why we went there in the first place.

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Quote: Fieldheadrhino "Regardless of peoples thoughts on the conflict in Afganhistan, the least people can do is shut up and be quiet for 60 seconds...'"



Wouldn't argue with the above.


Quote: Fieldheadrhino "to think about what those lads were doing for the benifit of the rest of us.'"



Which was?

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Quote: BaldRick "With all due respect to the recently fallen , why don't we just have a minute of silence prior to kick off at EVERY fooking game ?
I really do feel sympathy to the relatives and friends of these six chaps that unfortunately lost their lives on active service in a foreign land , but to be fair they mean no more to their families and friends than my dad meant to me , and we didn't all stand in silence for him . Death is a consequence of armed conflict . Yes they were brave . Yes they were young . Yes they knew the risks .
Due respects to all involved . But what has it got to do with us ?'"


disgusting thing to post , what as it got to do with us shouldnt even come into it its about showing respect and condolences to these 6 young men who have lost there lives , 5 of whom came from a yorkshire regiment and leeds being a major yorkshire city and also one of the kids coming from warrington this is a good call from both clubs and the rfl , like one of your fellow fans states if your not happy with this stay in the bar or stay away

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With these things you take from it what you want to take from it, nothing less, nothing more. With the Leeds club being a focal point of the local community and Warrington the same in their community it stands to reason that seeing as we are playing against each other that both clubs stand as one to honour our forces.

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RIP and condolences to the families of these young lads.Paying respects is not defending the confict in Afganistan."their's was not to reason why"

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In many ways I agree with the sentiment of what BaldRick has said. The minutes silence has been so overused in recent years that it loses much of its meaning. This is demojnstrated by the fact that the minutes silence is now often seen as not enough, and 2 and minutes are now common.

I have been involved in many over the years, and remember being at Elland Road for the Billy Bremner one, and the hairs standing up on the back of my neck. These days they are much more common, and often I don't even know who said person is (although partly through my own ignorance).

Our fallen soldiers do deserve our respects, and I have no problems observing the silence.

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Quote: lionarmour87 "RIP and condolences to the families of these young lads.Paying respects is not defending the confict in Afganistan."their's was not to reason why"'"


Hammer...nail...head

I detest those individuals who attempt to use a minutes silence of reflection as a vehicle for their own political views.

If they want to debate Afghanistan then take it over to the Sin Bin where you can debate the rights and wrongs to your heart's content. And for those who are still a bit lacking in understanding what are "the benefits" of denying a safe haven to a terrorists organisation which is dedicated to the destruction of our way of life; ....simply Google 9/11.....Taliban.....Al Quada

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Billy, Billy, Billy. There is no terrorist threat from Al-qaeda or the Taleban ( when did they become a terrorist organisation and not a political party?). We all know, that everything about Afghanistan is wrong, and I agree with you, that if you cannot stay quiet for 1 minute, then disappear, but an earlier poster made the point about silences becoming 10-a- penny and losing their relevance, and I too, agree with that.

I will not be attending the game, I will watch it in the pub, where I wil be quiet and pray the Eternal Rest prayer silently for them.

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Quote: BillyRhino "RIP and condolences to the families of these young lads.Paying respects is not defending the confict in Afganistan."their's was not to reason why"'"


Hammer...nail...head

I detest those individuals who attempt to use a minutes silence of reflection as a vehicle for their own political views.

If they want to debate Afghanistan then take it over to the Sin Bin where you can debate the rights and wrongs to your heart's content. And for those who are still a bit lacking in understanding what are "the benefits" of denying a safe haven to a terrorists organisation which is dedicated to the destruction of our way of life; ....simply Google 9/11.....Taliban.....Al Quada'"


You mean the terrorist that was found in Pakistan? You mean 9/11, than happend 1000s of miles away in America? We're fighting a war that is no closer to being won as it was 10 years ago against an enemy that would die for their 'cause' without hesitation. The Russains couldn't win over there 30 years ago against a less oraganised and worse equipped enemy than we see today.

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Quote: BillyRhino " And for those who are still a bit lacking in understanding what are "the benefits" of denying a safe haven to a terrorists organisation which is dedicated to the destruction of our way of life; ....simply Google 9/11.....Taliban.....Al Quada'"


I just googled those things and it came up that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the americans and that the war is about oil.

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Think we're going off the OT here lads. but the quote about people acknowledging a minutes silence and not knowing who for, reminded of a minutes silence at Anfield a few years back. They played Leeds a few days after the Hillsborough anniversary and the death of Harry Secombe. 2 Liverpool fans in the Kop, obviously silent during the Hillsborough rembrance minute, afterwards when the applause had died down, 1 said to the other;
" What was the silence for?" His mate frowned and looked at him.
" Harry Secombe." He replied.
" Why? Was he a Leeds supporter?"

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404 'British servicemen' lost in this conflict now. One for every game Sinfield has worn a Leeds 1st grade jersey over a sixteen year career.

While remembering the fallen it's the parents and grand-parents that will be uppermost in my thoughts. No-one expects to outlive their offspring - it's incredibly difficult to come to terms with, I'm not sure you ever do.

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Quote: lionarmour87 "RIP and condolences to the families of these young lads.Paying respects is not defending the confict in Afganistan."their's was not to reason why"'"


Bravo that man.

We can debate the conflict, but the job of the armed forces is to be on hand to put their lives on the line when people in government deem it to be in the national interest. That's their job, I expect them to do it in return for the money, and equally I think they should be able to expect our respect and gratitude that they are prepared to do it. I'll hold my hands up and say that I don't think I'd have the minerals.

The politics of the specific conflict are irrelevant IMO, and if this incident serves to act as a focal point for remembering the commitment that our armed forces make (and the silence is clearly stated to also be a moment to remember all those who have lost their lives) then I see no problem.

Support for our troops and support for the politics they fight for are too often confused. They are separate in my mind, and should remain so.

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Quote: BillyRhino "It has nothing to do with ignorant nice people like you.

It is an opportunity to express some measure of condolence for a horrific incident in which 6 young men lost their lives. Most normal people with a spark of compassion will understand and appreciate that.

Tossers like you can confine themselves to the bar area, whilst the rest of us will stand quietly and be grateful it wasn't our son who has fallen.'"


Much as I don't really agree with the sentiment he expressed, isn't BaldRick exercising the very freedom our soldiers are supposed to be risking their lives to defend?

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Quote: BillyRhino "Hammer...nail...head

I detest those individuals who attempt to use a minutes silence of reflection as a vehicle for their own political views.'"

Fair point.

Quote: BillyRhino "If they want to debate Afghanistan then take it over to the Sin Bin where you can debate the rights and wrongs to your heart's content. And for those who are still a bit lacking in understanding what are "the benefits" of denying a safe haven to a terrorists organisation which is dedicated to the destruction of our way of life; ....simply Google 9/11.....Taliban.....Al Quada'"

Time to practice what you initially preached above then rather than finish off with YOUR political views.

Hypocrite.

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