I'm not blaming the club. I am blaming the promises made to Pitts when he signed, the fact that they were going to develop him into a prop due to the shortage we had coming through in that area. He was never going to be a prop in my eyes, but that's irrelevant because that is what he was told. McLennan was the coach at the time, and obviously he changed his mind on that development, and then a change of coach after has not helped the lad to develop his game, whilst signing a boat load of props anyway.

Therefore for me, his best course of action if he want's to get a new contract is to prove himself playing, and the only option he could have to do that is to go on loan.

Why does it always come down to been the players fault what these scenarios arise? Sometimes it's just too much competition or your face doesn't fit.

You are right, which brings us right back to point one - ask for a loan to another club if there's a problem with Hull or ask for a release and prove yourself somewhere else - or knuckle down and STFU.

You are Jay Pitt's dad............I claim my £5

But seriously no ill will to the player himself but I don't see how he fits in at Leeds, a new start and hopefully for himself he will progress.

I don't see him doing this at Leeds

By the way who is We?

Gary Hetherington thinking of his conflicts rather than a players progression? well i never!

I don't quite follow. Care to expand?

It is possible that the club don't want him to leave because he's currently providing squad cover and competition for places. Unless we think every player currently outside the 19 man squad should be allowed to leave on loan?

I can also see why that would be frustrating for the player, but such is life.

Nothing much to see here IMO.

Perhaps GH is also a little fed up of Leeds providing players on loan to strengthen other SL clubs, that should instead be concentrating on developing their own youngsters?

22 year old having a bit of a hissy, I can understand that, I see it in my own daughters sometimes.

Or, bloke chatting to people he presumably knows reasonably well, discusses slight disappointment with recent event at work.

Like I said. Nothing to see here.

That line's a bit rich after Leeds just pinched Briscoe from Hull, not to mention Hardaker from Featherstone etc!

What relevance does that have to sending players out on loan?

If Hull FC had been bothered enough to tie their own youngsters up to long term contracts perhaps they wouldn't have to go around trying to sign players on loan from other SL clubs.

Once you find yourself behind Kirke in the pecking order the writing is clearly on the wall. Ridiculous, but it IS time to move on lad.

TBF to the lad he was sighned as a project by mclellan, Whilst he's not done alot wrong he hasn't progressed as expected. The only game where he showed promise was in the cup at HQ last season (wakey i think).

I can see him going the same way as mclellans other 'projects' Amor & Coady

Compared to what we have in the squad I don't think he compares and in my opinion he wasn't a good signing at the time and hasn't improved as maybe some on here suggested/expected.

Just because I don't rate the lad doesn't mean I don't wish him a successful career.