Sick of hearing people coming out with this rubbish. Our own competition should be the ultimate test for any player. Increase our salary cap and let's keep our best players to make sure that happens.

If a player want's the better lifestyle that Australia offers, then good luck to them. But it should never be down to testing themselves.

It is an inescapable fact that the NRl is a mor eintense competition than ours. It is the toughest domestic Rugby League competition in the world.

Therefore, whether you like it or not, if a player wants to test himself that is where he goes.

I've lost track of the amount of players who have played week in week out testing themselves in that league, then come over here and failed miserably.

If we lose our best players our own competition dumbs down. The ruling bodies should be ensuring that not happening is the priority in any future plans.

You're subtly trying to change the argument. I don't disagree we should try and keep our best players in Super League.

However, you were saying it's rubbish that players go to the NRL to test themselves. It's not Rubbish, it's spot on.

I agree Gotcha we should be doing all we can to keep our best players but whilst the RFL continue to "insist on gimmicks" the intensisty of our comp won't get anywhere near the NRL and now with the imminant SC rise in Oz i can see us struggling to keep all the best players here.

But there's no 'anti-dote' to ambition and free-will.

What will be, will be.

Thought he went ok when selected but has never really had a run of games to prove his worth. The same would go for Ambler but how do you fit em all in when you sign others, mind you have had to change my mind about Griffin and Moore suprisingly looked a handful in pre-season

We are also talking about a player who has won every domestic team honour there is to win, bar the challenge cup, available to win in this country. Why should he not have the ambition to try and win trophies in a different competition?