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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Webb to SO is a possible option to consider this season but would he put in the tackles that Sinfield does? I do not think the coach will make too many changes to the successful GF winning formula for the WCC.
The loss of such a key player as Buderus has seen him experiment with Burrow as first choice replacement 9. So far this has not born sufficient fruit although against Wigan Burrow was our best creative attacker But this decision may have been forced by the injury to Hood. Burrow playing at 9 was not the reason for our defeat at Wigan and as he was one of our few better players how could you consider replacing him with McShane?
If McShane were to make the starting line up who would you replace to bring Burrow off the bench? If it is McShane then Burrow would have to play at 9. If you consider Burrow a better player than McShane then this is why the coach has tried starting Burrow at 9. In the key games last year when Burrow made such an impact off the bench often Buderus remained on the field and a back rower was replaced. This year without Buderus we do not have that luxury so the coach has to do a bit of fiddling until Hood is fit again'"
So you think Hood is McDermott's first choice starting hooker and McShane a distant third ? Why was he given the no.9 shirt ?
Yes I would bring on Burrow as interchange to McShane ... But if the latter is playing exceptionally well then cannot Burrow come on as SH ??
Webb should be tried at SO if only to make way for BJB ( or Smith ) at FB |
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You could be onto something with the bring back Diskin campaign ... But think might prefer to see Lowes there ..... Hey I know.... what about Smithy ? ( do you think that one might duck under the radar ?? ) |
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| Quote: craigizzard "The fact that we were after Heath L'Estrange before he got injured, coupled with McShane's freezing out even when on decent form midway through last season would indicate exactly what the hierarchy think about whether McShane is capable of taking on the No.9 shirt. A failure of recruitment (Wakefield bought a pretty good hooker from the NRL, by the way) and the injury to Hood has left us with make-do and mend, although I can't see Burrow as starting hooker being the answer in any circumstance.
As has been pointed out previously, our good performances last season came with Burrow playing 7 (albeit off the bench), McGuire 6, Sinfield 13 and Buderus still on as 9. It's a complete myth that Burrow was an interchange hooker. On those occasions earlier in the season when he did come on for Buderus against decent teams more often than not our defensive structure went to pot and we started shipping points.
No doubt the club see Hood as the future, and he may well be. But James Roby, who emerged with Saints at around the same age, spent how many years as secondary 9 before gradually taking on the full job without it doing his long-term development anything but good?
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Player power ! Now that DOES make sense.
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| Quote: nantwichexile "So you think Hood is McDermott's first choice starting hooker and McShane a distant third ? Why was he given the no.9 shirt ?
Yes I would bring on Burrow as interchange to McShane ... But if the latter is playing exceptionally well then cannot Burrow come on as SH ??
Webb should be tried at SO if only to make way for BJB ( or Smith ) at FB'"
I do not know if BMcD favours McShane or Hood as first choice hooker but as the more experience of the two it is right he got the 9 shirt. Neither do I know if Hood has been more impressive on the training field since McShane got the 9 shirt.
What I do know is that Hood is injured and the coach is trying out Burrow as starting hooker. This may prove to be unsuccessfull but as the coach he is entitled to try things out without your approval. You may recall there were those last year that were most critical of the coach selecting Burrow on the bench and look how that experiement turned out....eh Nantwich!!!  |
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "I do not know if BMcD favours McShane or Hood as first choice hooker but as the more experience of the two it is right he got the 9 shirt. Neither do I know if Hood has been more impressive on the training field since McShane got the 9 shirt.
What I do know is that Hood is injured and the coach is trying out Burrow as starting hooker. This may prove to be unsuccessfull but as the coach he is entitled to try things out without your approval. You may recall there were those last year that were most critical of the coach selecting Burrow on the bench and look how that experiement turned out....eh Nantwich!!! ![]()
Actually If you check back you will see that is the direct opposite of the truth. I was an advocate of Burrow being better used as a sub dummy half long before the Leeds coach ....if not before Harrigan. I was also an advocate of Delaney being better used as a forward long before any Leeds coach.... if not before Bloodbath. I also expect a belated move of Hardaker to HIS best position
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| Quote: Harrigan "Keep Burrow as far away from 7 as possible!!!! He needs to be moved back to the bench ASAP so he can do the only thing he has ever been good at... exploiting gaps left by tired defenders.'"
Where did Burrow play when he came off the bench in game winning displays in the GF qualifier and the GF itself? It wasn't hooker.
When did McGuire last provide the kind of positive spark from half back that Burrow has given us? |
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We are playing our number 6 at 7, our 13 at 6 our 7 at 9 and our 9 is sat on the bench. All this means is instead of building pressure and scoring good team tries we are having to depend on indivual skill which gets us out of a hole on many occasions, but the skill should be the boost upon good team work, not the be all and end all.
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| Quote: G1 "Quote: G1 "Keep Burrow as far away from 7 as possible!!!! He needs to be moved back to the bench ASAP so he can do the only thing he has ever been good at... exploiting gaps left by tired defenders.'"
Where did Burrow play when he came off the bench in game winning displays in the GF qualifier and the GF itself? It wasn't hooker.
When did McGuire last provide the kind of positive spark from half back that Burrow has given us?'"
I think thats fair. 2011 was a bit of a write off for DM. I can't even remember him on Saturday. |
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| Quote: MjM "FFS! Why do people continue to insist that Burrow's amazing performances coming off the bench somehow prove that he should stop coming off the bench?!?!'"
My point is that if Burrow is playing so well he will be wondering why he is sitting on the bench. Players want to start, Mcdermott has to keep players happy. burrow probably is better coming off the benchbut Burrow probably doesn't want to start on the bench.
Besides that still looked like the only one to score throughout the game on Saturday, |
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| Quote: nantwichexile "I was also an advocate of Delaney being better used as a forward long before any Leeds coach.... if not before Bloodbath.'"
It's the benefit I have of calling things as I see them.
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| Quote: G1 "When did McGuire last provide the kind of positive spark from half back that Burrow has given us?'"
Sadly, he doesn't appear to be even close to his pre-injury form despite having a full off-season to get his sharpness back.
Currently I'd much rather see Burrow partnering Sinfield in the halves.
As for Webb, what was anyone expecting? He's been mediocre in defence and attack for the last 18 months and should have been replaced during the off-season by either Smith or Jones-Bishop. Leeds are carrying him at the moment with misguided loyalty. |
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The whole problem is not Burrows, McShane, etc. It IS because Sinfield "wants" to play Stand Off and so the whole team has to dance around in positions they are not best suited.
McGuire at 6
Burrows at 7
Sinfield at 13 Why Not ?
This coach is dictated by Sinfield - not good & the fact that you guys won something last season was not the coach but the players thinking Fk it - We will do our own thing !!
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| Quote: harigeorgeson "The whole problem is not Burrows, McShane, etc. It IS because Sinfield "wants" to play Stand Off and so the whole team has to dance around in positions they are not best suited.
McGuire at 6
Burrows at 7
Sinfield at 13 Why Not ?
This coach is dictated by Sinfield - not good & the fact that you guys won something last season was not the coach but the players thinking Fk it - We will do our own thing !!'"
Well you should know,should you?guy! |
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