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| Quote: LeedsDave "Drop McShane for me - he was dreadful on friday night (and rightly so, got taken off).
Keep burrow at hooker as he offers more, and then we can put another forward on the bench. We'll need it against the Pies.
Moore or Kirke in for McShane
Although if we have a real hooker on the pitch we wouldn't need an extra forward on the bench.
McShane looked better last year when he had a decent run. I'd start him against Wigan and either play Burrow at 7, or bench. Burrow is a great tackler out in his usual defensive position, I don't know where he defended against KR, but hooker usually defends tight around the ruck area and takes a lot of punishment. Not the best for Rob.
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| If those doubting Watkins defence for the HKR tries watch the highlihts on the website they'll see he wasn't at fault at all.
The 2 Horne ones were firstly Sinfield(1st marker) and Smith whilst Hornes 2nd again was Smith(1st marker0 and Sinfield with Delaney.
The Welham try he went between Sinfield and Smith and like i posted eslewhere i don't think Hodgson got the ball down legally for his try but it was in the corner where Smith defends but in faiirness to him the right edge failed to slide quickly enough as a unit.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Yes but how many tackles did he make?'"
For one week only -
Burrow defended wide on the left as per usual.
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| TVOC I see what yer saying re-kylie i actually thought Moore was unlucky not to get the bench spot before him for the HKR match.
Also if the Coach's statement pre-season with regards to rotation is gonna be followed up (although granted early) then Moore should come in and replace Kylie imo.
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| Quote: tvoc "Burrow defended wide on the left as per usual.'"
Cheers. How did we fill the hole in midfield? Given the number of tackles that Buderus or Diskin would make (notice I mentioned to avoid the usual).
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| Quote: LeedsDave "Drop McShane for me - he was dreadful on friday night (and rightly so, got taken off).
Keep burrow at hooker as he offers more, and then we can put another forward on the bench. We'll need it against the Pies.
Moore or Kirke in for McShane
I agree McShane was dreadful, droping him is not a serious option, as Burrows won't last a full 80 at hooker.
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| Liam Farrell has been called to the panel for a grade B challenge, and could get 1-2 match ban. He also received a warning for a different tackle.
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| Quote: tvoc "Leuluai produced 122 metres at an average of just over 10 a carry and was credited with a try assist on the McGuire score.
While he's no Kirke that's hardly dropping form either.'"
Good stats but they don't tell the whole story. It seemed to me that both Leuluai and Hauraki ran really strong at the start of their stints. After a sustained period of struggle against HKR's pack,the whole team seemed to lift a little when they came on.
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| Quote: Frosties. "Liam Farrell has been called to the panel for a grade B challenge, and could get 1-2 match ban. He also received a warning for a different tackle.'"
He is a pie, so he will not receive a suspension.
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| Quote: Chief Stinkwort "Good stats but they don't tell the whole story. It seemed to me that both Leuluai and Hauraki ran really strong at the start of their stints. After a sustained period of struggle against HKR's pack,the whole team seemed to lift a little when they came on.'"
I'd add Griffin to that list aswell, he really impressed me with his go forward.
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| Quote: tvoc "For one week only -
Thanks. So Kylie made only 9 tackles! Further proof of your point that he's "hardly dropping form" I suppose?
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| Only?
Would you run at Leuluai given the choice.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Thanks. So Kylie made only 9 tackles! Further proof of your point that he's "hardly dropping form" I suppose?'"
Maybe the HKR forwards just didn't run so close to him as other players who made the tackles. Maybe he was sent out with a brief to cause damage in attack more than in defence. (Given the drop to 10 interchanges this is quite conceivable)
Until you analyse his position relative to all the defensive plays Leeds made, and unless you are privy to the coach's pre-match instructions, the number of tackles by an individual in any one game aren't necessarily an indication of form.
A more reliable indicator might be missed tackles. The fact is he only missed one...on a par with last season. (average missed tackles 1.3 per game)
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| Quote: tvoc "Only?
Would you run at Leuluai given the choice.'"
He'd run to the rlrightrl rlwingrl to avoid him
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| Watkins seemed to defend more in field compared to most centres. Half the time he was almost in the middle of the field and none of the tries were down to him. Smith and Sinfield had stinkers with their D.
Adam, how come you'd drop Hauraki? He was awesome last week.
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