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Quote: rhino phil "if they had entered a conventional arrangement stobart would still have been shouting about their title sponsorship in their advertising in much the way barclays use their association with the EPl or aviva with RU. I wouldnt have been suprised to see stobart using their trucks to trumpet their involvement in much this way if they had sponsored the league in cash terms. At the very least the RL should have pushed for a significant proprtion of the fleet to be involved. When I first heard about this deal i assumed every truck would be involve din some way although the RFL appear to have been taken for a ride.'"

Really? I go on the Barclays website or go in a branch I don't see big promotional adverts for football, or big adverts for Union on the Aviva website, in fact Aviva seem more bothered about sponsoring ITV Dramas.
Why would a company give away advertising space for free that could either be used to advertise themselves or be sold on the market? Effectively Stobart have sold the advertising space on 100 of their lorries to the RFL.

As I said before, someone on the VT looked at the cost of advertising space and it worked out significantly more than the BetFair deal. Around £900,000 of advertising compared to £750,000 in cash from Betfair, which also brings issues with Catalans and whether its good to have a gambling company as main sponsor.
I believe you mentioned that Stobart have over 2000 vehicles, for the RFL to have "a significant proportion of the fleet" it would need to be what? At least around 25%? Which going on rough figures is 5 times more than what we got so would value the deal at around £4.5m.

So is £4.5m achieveable for the RFL as naming sponsor for SL? Nope, its cloud cuckoo land.

For years people have been saying the RFL should market the sport better and "actually spend some money on advertising". Well they've just spent close to £1m and surprise surprise they're being blamed for spending money on advertising.

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Him-Barclays Premier League is even on the mini statements you get out of their cash points and theer are plenty of adverts in branches.

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Quote: rhinoms "Him-Barclays Premier League is even on the mini statements you get out of their cash points and theer are plenty of adverts in branches.'"

Hmmm, maybe it's just the ones in York I've been in then, but even then I doubt that advertising equals the amount of money paid by Barclays to sponser the PL.
The point is though that why would we expect a company to give away millions of pounds if advertising space when there hasn't been a history of companies doing that for RL.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



It will be interesting to see the first pic posted of KEV and where it was taken

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The thing is this - times are tough, money isn't exactly flowing freely and SL isn't exactly the biggest brand in UK sport. This deal gets some advertising and exposure (it has made some news headlines already hasn't it?) and doesn't tie the RFL or SL to any exclusive package, so they can negotiate cash sponsorship deals with other partners. Which will be easier to do the higher the sport's profile is.

Thing is, if there was an offer of a million quid a season in cash on the table, I suspect they'd have taken it. But there probably wasn't, so they've been a bit more creative about it. Which is novel for the RFL and I commend them for it.

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Quote: Fat Boy "Senior doesn't sound too happy about it.

rlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_6915-senior-blasts-stobart-deal.htmlrl'"


Well, if I wan advice on how to play centre at the top level, I'll ask Keith. If I want business advice, I'll probably look elsewhere.

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Quote: Sherbert Dip "All fans will be excited and enjoy seeing 'their club' truck on the roads.'"


In the same way that baboons hurl their dung at passing predators, can we expect similar if one of the Leeds trucks turns off at Junction 32 of the M62?

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More pictures rlhererl....

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Nice touch to get Garry Schofield to pose in front of the truck in 'just passing' mode.

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Quote: tigertot "Nice touch to get Garry Schofield to pose in front of the truck in 'just passing' mode.'"



to be fair isn't he the size of an average truck now a days?

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Quote: SouthStander.com "More pictures rlhererl....'"


I assume the Warrington representative on the middle truck picture is Ben Westwood and the pixalation effect is to protect the innocents and prevent any unnecceasy motorway pile-ups.

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Speaking of unusual sights, I was watching a bit of Superleague on Sky this morning, as you do, when the camera picked out an apparently famous face in the crowd. I think they said it was Paul Scholes (sorry but that means nothing much to me - I've heard of him but wouldn't recognise him) but I did clock the fella sat in front of him ....... one from our very own coaching staff.

I had been wondering why I kept hearing an Oldham accent shouting forrrrrward every other pass.

Still not sure what Rugby League can learn from women's netball. They appear to catch the ball and stop running .....

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Quote: tvoc "Speaking of unusual sights, I was watching a bit of Superleague on Sky this morning, as you do, when the camera picked out an apparently famous face in the crowd. '"


On a similar note, did anyone else spot Chris Flannery in the crowd during Sky's coverage of the Liverpool-Man City game this week?

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Quote: El Diablo "Well, if I wan advice on how to play centre at the top level, I'll ask Keith. If I want business advice, I'll probably look elsewhere.'"


By the by, Leeds were one of the clubs that voted against, according to League Express.

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Quote: Clearwing "By the by, Leeds were one of the clubs that voted against, according to League Express.'"

Quite right too, it's an appalling sponsorship deal and an embarrassing one.

Roy Haggerty was spot on rlHERErl.

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I agree with KS on this one. Our game needs a sponsor who will deliver substantial funds first and foremost in return for being the major sponsor. The Stobart deal would be ok as a secondary sponsor in addtion to a proper one. As it is, it seems more of an advertising campaign on behalf of SL live on Sky HD. I wonder if Sky made a contribution?

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