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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Quote: SmokeyTA "Interesting how ' TMFMISL ' hasn't responded to any of Radford's advances about this boxing extravaganda isn't it.
Despite writing to him, trying to contact him on line and asking the Leeds players and his agent about a possible match up, he heard nothing...not a word.....Mr Bailey is incommunicado or to put it another way simply not TMFMISL.'"
I cant believe he wrote to him.
What a random letter that would be to receive.
Dear Ryan,
You know that time I had a hissy fit and punched you in the back of the head whilst you had a ball in your hand and were trying to get up and play the ball which resulted in me getting sent off, my team losing the game, your team in overtaking us in the table and us going out in the first round to our closest rivals? Well how about this time YOU do ME a favour and drive 60 miles up to the great dude of England, interrupt your only break in training between your international commitments and pre-season training, and a week before Christmas come to Hull so a group of braying, jeering, morons can hand over money and I can put it in my back pocket and they can be drunk, braying, jeering, morons and we can have a fight? If you dont said braying morons will likely mock you on an internet message board.
If thats not enough Dean Windass will be telling some stories about being an drunk lower league footballer at a sportsmans dinner for me and Ill get you a ticket.
I hope you can attend
Yours sincerely
Lee Radford.'" 
I love the hull interpretation that Bailey should go out of his way to help Radford or he's being soft |
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| Quote: leicester_rhino "Peacock has more, though the number as prop is debatable'"
Peacock won his first two winner's rings starting in the Bradford second row. His final win with Bradford came from the starting prop position and he's added another four with Leeds doing the same, so five in total from prop.
In terms of wins as a starting prop the next best after Peacock is Kylie Leuluai with four.
Bailey's five wins have come from one start at prop and four from the bench. |
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Peacock only has 1 LL shield at prop though
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Who is this Radford fella?
Is that bloke who was retired by TMFMISL, who scored the last try of the game, in the last game of the season at HQ?
You couldn't make it up.
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| Quote: leicester_rhino "Peacock only has 1 LL shield at prop though'"
Sorry, I missed the League Leaders reference in the opening comment on this issue.
Including LL's I'm thinking Stuart Fielden would take it with four LL's ('99, '01, '03 and '10) to add to his four winner's rings - 3 starting + 1 bench. |
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Which do you think players would prefer 4LL's and 4Gf's or 2LL's and 5GF's???
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| The totals provided aren't GF's they are GF winners.
Quote: jarvis12345 " Which do you think players would prefer 4LL's and 4Gf's or 2LL's and 5GF's???'"
Probably the latter but according to your original criteria Stuart Fielden (unless anyone knows otherwise) appears to come out on top of that 'SL prop' specific table.
Shame that as my original reply (accidentally ignoring LL's) served the one-eyed blue and amber agenda better. |
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Maybe a more suitable criteria is needed to determine the greater player.
For example the pinnacle of the sport is a GF winners ring, the next would be Challenge Cup winner medal, then World Player of the Year and so on…
So…
GF Ring = 10 points
CC Winners Medal = 8 points
Golden Boot = 7 points
MoS = 6 points
LLS = 5 points
WWC = 5 points
Harry Sunderland = 4 points
Lance Todd = 4 points
Dream Team = 2 points
With this matrix who would be the 'best' prop in SL and come to think of it, who would be the 'best' player?
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| Quote: Fat Boy "With this matrix who would be the 'best' prop in SL and come to think of it, who would be the 'best' player?'"
And more importantly, who cares?  |
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| Quote: Fat Boy "Maybe a more suitable criteria is needed to determine the greater player.
For example the pinnacle of the sport is a GF winners ring, the next would be Challenge Cup winner medal, then World Player of the Year and so on…
So…
GF Ring
Based on that Sinnie is on 86 points.
(50, 0, 0, 0, 10, 10, 4, 4, 8 )
N.B. Dream team is best guess? I'd say '05, '06, '08 & '09?
Edit - I'd also suggest the tiny alteration that we'd call the winner of this "The Most Successful Player" as opposed to "The Best".
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| Quote: ryano "Quote: ryano "Interesting how ' TMFMISL ' hasn't responded to any of Radford's advances about this boxing extravaganda isn't it.
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Perhaps, like me, he didn't know WTF you're on about!'" |
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| Quote: ryano "Quote: ryano "Interesting how ' TMFMISL ' hasn't responded to any of Radford's advances about this boxing extravaganda isn't it.
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Perhaps, like me, he didn't know WTF you're on about!'" |
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| Quote: Fat Boy "Maybe a more suitable criteria is needed to determine the greater player.
'" Maybe, and I am coming a little out of left field here, the best way to form an opinion on how good players are is watch them play rather than some mathematical formula.
Utilising this crazy notion over the years I have determined, however much I rate Bailey, and I do, that at their respective peaks Peacock, Fielden and Graham were better players than him but many others in the league were not. At the current stage of their careers I have formulated the opinion that I would rather have Bailey than many other props in the league.
Just in case I am being to weird I will take my calculator to the next game I watch. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Quote: SmokeyTA "Interesting how ' TMFMISL ' hasn't responded to any of Radford's advances about this boxing extravaganda isn't it.
Despite writing to him, trying to contact him on line and asking the Leeds players and his agent about a possible match up, he heard nothing...not a word.....Mr Bailey is incommunicado or to put it another way simply not TMFMISL.'"
I cant believe he wrote to him.
What a random letter that would be to receive.
Dear Ryan,
You know that time I had a hissy fit and punched you in the back of the head whilst you had a ball in your hand and were trying to get up and play the ball which resulted in me getting sent off, my team losing the game, your team in overtaking us in the table and us going out in the first round to our closest rivals? Well how about this time YOU do ME a favour and drive 60 miles up to the great dude of England, interrupt your only break in training between your international commitments and pre-season training, and a week before Christmas come to Hull so a group of braying, jeering, morons can hand over money and I can put it in my back pocket and they can be drunk, braying, jeering, morons and we can have a fight? If you dont said braying morons will likely mock you on an internet message board.
If thats not enough Dean Windass will be telling some stories about being an drunk lower league footballer at a sportsmans dinner for me and Ill get you a ticket.
I hope you can attend
Yours sincerely
Lee Radford.'"
sensational! |
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| Quote: G1 "Maybe, and I am coming a little out of left field here, the best way to form an opinion on how good players are is watch them play rather than some mathematical formula.
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It'll never work. |
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