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| Quote: nantwichexile "As for Sinfield at stand off (Andy) ....undoubtedly a place has to be found for the incontrovertible inspirational skipper, but nobody can convince me that he is nothing other than an adequate in the role. I still see him as a better LF.'" Just in case you hadn't noticed - he doesn't do too much differently whichever position he plays. I'd say a 2 Grand Final winning, international stand off is more than adequate. At the very least I'd take him over Smith and Hardaker there!
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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Another great performance from Buderus. But he has had many other great performances this season when not on for the full 80. (as has JP, JJB. RB etc) Not for the first time Nantwich that you have under estimated our Champion coach Brian McDermott and his tactics Firstly the hooker is the most physically demanding position on the field and most teams including St Helens and Warrington rest their first choice at some stage in the game. As Buderus is coming to end of his outstanding career it is a good idea to also allow him a rest for most normal league games. Not being on for the full 80 has not diminished his performances for Leeds. Secondly it is only in the last few games that McGuire has regained some speed, fitness and form. Until this happened Sinfield had to continue to play at 6. Therefore Burrow had to be used as an impact player coming on at 9 and only reverting to 7 when Buderus returned to the field later in the games. This also allowed McGuire to regain some game time at 6 late in the latter games. As McGuire came back to form as the end of the season approached Macca then had the option to bring on Burrow at 7 and move McGuire to 6 with some extra confidence. As we came to the final two games of his Leeds career Buderus could play the full 80 with less risk of burning out a key player. This fine player wanted to go out on a high and being the professional that he is rose to the occasion. Why can you not see that the coach was being tactically astute in using his resources in this manner?'" Resting him for mere "normal league games" was undoubtedly a contributory reason for the final league positioning. Are you really suggesting McDermott planned that ? It was a tactical decison to reach the GF and win by finishing in such a lowly position ??
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Quote: Andy R "Just in case you hadn't noticed - he doesn't do too much differently whichever position he plays. I'd say a 2 Grand Final winning, international stand off is more than adequate. At the very least I'd take him over Smith and Hardaker there!'" Of course...but that equates to a better LF than SO. Taking him over Smith aint saying much really I'm afraid to say....and of course Hardaker isn't ready [ijust[/i yet. Would you take Sinfield at SO over any other SO in SL ?? (Ignoring his role as the inspirational captain that of course nobody can contest)
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Quote: nantwichexile "Resting him for mere "normal league games" was undoubtedly a contributory reason for the final league positioning. Are you really suggesting McDermott planned that ? It was a tactical decison to reach the GF and win by finishing in such a lowly position ??
No, I think he's suggesting that Bedsy is no longer up to playing 80 minutes week in, week out. Something he could no longer do before he joined us and wasn't likely to be able to do 3 years and a serious injury later. Had he done that his 2 world class performances in two of our biggest games of the season might have been less impressive
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Quote: nantwichexile "Of course...but that equates to a better LF than SO. Taking him over Smith aint saying much really I'm afraid to say....and of course Hardaker isn't ready [ijust[/i yet. Would you take Sinfield at SO over any other SO in SL ?? (Ignoring his role as the inspirational captain that of course nobody can contest)'" Smith was tongue in cheek as last year you suggested he might be the answer there. I'd suggest he'd have got into the following sides at Stand Off this year: Wigan (with Finch at 7) Saints (alongside one of the 2 youngsters) Hull Hull KR Cas (with Chase at 7) Bradford Salford Wakefield Quins Crusaders The fact he would struggle to replace Briers/Myler, Brown/Brough is largely down to the fact that they need the quicker half to play alongside the organiser.
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Quote: Andy R "No, I think he's suggesting that Bedsy is no longer up to playing 80 minutes week in, week out. Something he could no longer do before he joined us and wasn't likely to be able to do 3 years and a serious injury later. Had he done that his 2 world class performances in two of our biggest games of the season might have been less impressive'" Perhaps we should take such a cautious position with all our recognised game winners and have all of Burrow, McGuire, Sinfield, Hall etc sat on the bench to prolong their careers at the club
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Quote: Andy R "Smith was tongue in cheek as last year you suggested he might be the answer there.
I'd suggest he'd have got into the following sides at Stand Off this year Never stated he would be the "answer" there, merely he might be worth a try (when he seemed sharper and fitter) in the role. As for the clubs you suggest Sinfield would command the SO position.....doesn't say much for the standards in the SL does it ? Let me make this clear....I LIKE THE GUY. He needs to be included in the team. He is a BRILLIANT captain...at SO he fulfills the need adequately. At LF he fulfills the need better. I believe Ablett would go better there...but Sinfield MUST be included and LF is his position IMO.
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Quote: nantwichexile "Perhaps we should take such a cautious position with all our recognised game winners and have all of Burrow, McGuire, Sinfield, Hall etc sat on the bench to prolong their careers at the club
Perhaps, hooker is a position in the modern game where very few players play 80 minutes, let alone 32/3? year olds whose bodies have played at the top level for their entire careers.
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