I reckon they'll pepper webb and BJB.

One thing that does concern me is some inexperience in the backline.

In previous grand finals we've had pretty solid players in that respect which have kept us error free when tested.

Ha!

It got to the stage where before a saints warrington game you'd be thinking 'it's got to be this time, got to be'', and then long would pop over a drop goal with seconds left and it would go on.....

I know of Wigan doing four losing Championship Finals (1909/10 to 1912/13) and obviously St Helens have joined them (2007 to 2010), not sure Oldham have done it but they did do three as have Leeds.

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He's already got one. Let's not be greedy.

I have no idea how you would go about calling this one. The pre-play off form guide suggested neither would be there, both (especially Leeds) have performed well above expectations to be there, but neither will be settling for that.

I really think either team could win it.

But, pessimism has served me particularly well this year, so I see no reason to get all optimisitic now.

I've absolutely no idea about this one.

I do know that I am, for some reason, looking forward to it more than any of the others bar 2004.

Could be a great game. I don't think either team's under any pressure this time as neither of us have been regarded as favourites to win it at any point; this is still the case even now.

Bring it on.

If we won where would this rank on our list of recent achievements? To win it from 5th after the season we have had is some acheivement, especially with no breaks during the season

I said it on the other thread, and also said it is quite easy to say once achieved, but I would take even greater satisfaction out of this one if a win than 2004. It is a phenominal achievement this year if they do it.

Personally, I will stick to what I said last week, I was confident of beating Warrington and winning the GF, so I shouldn't and won't deviate from that.

Sit down.

Take a long, deep breath.

Ready?

I thought Warrington would beat us by 20. You were right and I was wrong.






That said you have been predicting the terminal decline of the team since about 2006 so if you predict every possible outcome you must be right eventually.

Completely agree, I guess there simply isn't as much pressure to win. Simply getting to the GF has completely exceded this years expectations, and despite what certain red rose trolls may think, it is a phenomenal achievement in itself.

I can't believe i'm even thinking this way (let alone sharing it) but as long as we give a decent account of ourselves, then I aren't at all bothered what the result is. Not meaning to sound sympathetic or patronising but if Saints do win, who can begrudge them. Not only the 4 losses, but to reach OT with their run of injuries is almost as impressive as us getting there!

That said, by Friday I'm hoping I'll be not quite as passive, and have more of a 'hope we smash the cr@p out of the scouse f***ers' attitude.

If we play as well as we did at HJ, we will win

I wasn't claiming to be right, so you didn't have to admit any wrongs to me. I was far more wrong on the team.

You know your last sentence isn't true, so I don't really need to comment do I?

Does the law of averages extend to the international game?

Who's going to be betting on England winning the Four Nations, surely our losing streak against the Aussies has got to come to an end some time....?

Quote: Gotcha "I wasn't claiming to be right, so you didn't have to admit any wrongs to me. I was far more wrong on the team. You know your last sentence isn't true, so I don't really need to comment do I?'" Not sure what made you think Leeds were any more likely to win than when they played at the Halliwell Jones earlier in the season: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=484567&start=15 or even when they faced each other at Headingley: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=495523 but it appears you were right on all three occasions so top marks for that. __________ I wonder if we can persuade the forums 'alpha male' to join in the Prediction comp next season?

Quote: Gotcha "I wasn't claiming to be right, so you didn't have to admit any wrongs to me. I was far more wrong on the team. You know your last sentence isn't true, so I don't really need to comment do I?'" Not sure what made you think Leeds were any more likely to win than when they played at the Halliwell Jones earlier in the season: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=484567&start=15 or even when they faced each other at Headingley: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=495523 but it appears you were right on all three occasions so top marks for that. __________ I wonder if we can persuade the forums 'alpha male' to join in the Prediction comp next season?

I think its anyones game. But there are some interesting things to take into count.

Starting with Saints, the last game for Graham so he will be giving it some welly. They have some young players who havent had to play us in a GF so will just play out of their skin.

Leeds on the other hand have a few things backing them. Theres the obvious one of it being Buderus last game that will spur him on to add a SL ring to his nal of titles. Also we hold the record of the first team to win three GFs on the bounce. We can't add to this but we are in a position to break a record in being the first team from 5th place to win the GF. That record alone would take some beating. Then we can look at the season in general, it has been rather indifferent resulting in said 5th place in the league. Maybe that will be a spur for Leeds, the players will be up for this to vindicate Macca as will he to prove all those neigh sayers (me included) that we were wrong. Plus the likes of Cunningham and Gilmour arent playing this year and they always did us damage the so-and-so's

There is far too much of a love in going on, on both saints and Leeds threads.
I'm here to break up the happy couple. My prediction is Saints by at least twenty.