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Quote: lionarmour87 "Hull FC used to have one years ago in their 80s successful period and he used shout racist abuse at the oppsing teams black players even though his own teams stars had James leuluai etc and once someone turned round andtold him about the late Clive Sullivan and he just looked blank and carried on with the vile racist abuse.'"


They had more than one. I remember Paul Sterling getting abused while stood in front of the threepenny stand while stood on the wing for us, the chant was the imaginitive "you b***** b******". I also remember the Hull club getting into to a spot of bother in the late 80's / early 90's when they played previously recorded chanting over the tannoy system to invigorate the crowd, on this occasion they hadn't really listened to the recording with to much scrutiny as after "come on u ull" or whatever there was a short burst of the chant mentioned above.

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It sounds as though a lot of you know who this "man" is. Why don't you just inform the club and get him banned?

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I suppose I had better add to this thread . Not sure what I should be saying though .

The Big Fat Bald B****** . Yes I know him . He is usually stood near me at home games . BFBB was in a group of around 14 that travelled down together on the 8am train yesterday morning . I was with them , and we had a thoroughly enjoyable day out in London . I have been to quite a lot of away games over the years with groups that have had BFBB with them . Everyone knows he can get loud . Everyone knows that he likes to have a bit of near the knuckle banter with opposing fans . We also know that he is likely to have a beer or two too many and sleep all the way home . He ain't a bad lad really . Just gets a bit boisterous , sometimes to the point of obnoxious , when he has had a few beers . I have seen worse behavious by other Rhinos fans , and nothing is ever said about them . Maybe it is because he is a BFBB that he stands out and gets noticed more than the others .
By the way . I didn't see or hear the incident yesterday . I heard about it though . One of that group near him came and sat with me and told me that it looked as if there was going to be trouble and he didn't want throwing out . I was sat to the left of the singers and busy eating my lil picnic I had took with me . I believe it was Kev B that had a word . I did see BFBB down to the left of the stand we were in and there were a few stewards around him . One of them appeared to be taking pictures of him . Then it looked like he walked to the other side of the ground accompanied by two Leeds fans . One of them could have been JR .

Oh ! And the BFBB slept most of the way home on the train .
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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It sounds as though a lot of you know who this "man" is. Why don't you just inform the club and get him banned?'"

before poking your nose into other peoples business why not report ONE or a few more for taking gratification..and wanting a decent lads career to end?

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I was one of the 'group', and I'd like to present our side.

Don't know BFBB and know he does get a bit rowdy. That said, when we were trying to get some support going for the lads (and god knows they needed it) we got some of the OP's lot telling us to 'sit down and shut the F up'. As you may understand, we didn't take too kindly to this, and gave some back, and this was what got on BFBB's moobs.

There's enough space at any ground for everyone to stand/sit where's best for them. But it's out of line to pick somewhere knowing you're near the fans (as opposed to supporters) and then complain they're even at the game.

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Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "I was one of the 'group', and I'd like to present our side.

Don't know BFBB and know he does get a bit rowdy. That said, when we were trying to get some support going for the lads (and god knows they needed it) we got some of the OP's lot telling us to 'sit down and shut the F up'. As you may understand, we didn't take too kindly to this, and gave some back, and this was what got on BFBB's moobs.

There's enough space at any ground for everyone to stand/sit where's best for them. But it's out of line to pick somewhere knowing you're near the fans (as opposed to supporters) and then complain they're even at the game.'"

Let me get this straight, other Leeds fans told your group to sit down and be quiet?

Firstly, you should be sat down, the Stoop is an all seater stadium. Secondly, I don't believe that Leeds fans would tell other Leeds fans to be quiet unless they were causing trouble through their behaviour, attitude or language. If Kev B (the Leeds steward) had to have a word then there is a problem. He's been doing the buses for years and knows what he's on about.

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BFBB was not stood with the friends he travelled down to London with .They were spread around the stadium with other friends that they met down there .
What is wrong with standing up at the back of an almost empty stadium even if it is all-seater ?
BFBB is very useful if you want to get a bit of atmosphere going . He ain't one to take his knitting with him and manufacture a cardigan while he is watching the game .Ok , his language might be a bit colourful , but he is very passionate and vocal about his team . He attends all home games , and probably more away games than a lot of people who come on here with an opinion of his behaviour at away games .
BFBB took his shirt off at Donny ? Dunno . I wasn't there . But I wouldn't be surprised if he did . He is a BFBB and proud of it . Have seen him many a time comparing bellies with oppo fans . Most memorable was at OT with a Saints fan . BFBB LOST . His wasn't as big. All good fun .

Regarding foul language at games . There are some very sensitive souls are there not . I would suggest to anyone that does not want to be subjected to having to listen to such language that they attend chess matches . Foul language occurs among the fans of just about every sport . It even happened at my kids sportsday . The offender was removed from the school premises . There are some places it is just not acceptable at all .

Should I have a word and ask him to tone it dwn a bit ? I might .
But I will only advise him to curb the language . NOT the noise .
BFBB just wouldn't be the same without the usual level of decibels .

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Quote: BaldRick "

Regarding foul language at games . There are some very sensitive souls are there not . I would suggest to anyone that does not want to be subjected to having to listen to such language that they attend chess matches . Foul language occurs among the fans of just about every sport . It even happened at my kids sportsday . The offender was removed from the school premises . There are some places it is just not acceptable at all .

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This is why I'm not really that bothered whether I go to RL games anymore.

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I don't care about the noise or the odd swear word. But far too often it ends up being every other word rather than the odd expletive.

People going to a sporting event should expect the possibility of noise, they should expect an odd swear word during the course of a game. But they shouldn't have to sit there in front of a constant torrent of swearing.

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You will find that home clubs very rarely get informed about troublesome away fans and actually do anything about it.
Leeds couldnt ban anyone from attending an away match and the home club dont follow things thru.

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Quote: Him "I don't care about the noise or the odd swear word. But far too often it ends up being every other word rather than the odd expletive.

People going to a sporting event should expect the possibility of noise, they should expect an odd swear word during the course of a game. But they shouldn't have to sit there in front of a constant torrent of swearing.'"


This.

It's about knowing where boundaries are. We all dfo it every day. It's how normal social conduct works. Not by hard-and-fast rules, by an appreciation of when you cross the line into causing a problem for other people around you.

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Easily sorted. If this person is as obnoxious as claimed, then simply take his photo, attach it to your complaint with all the relevant info, and email it to Garry. Our CEO can then decide if this behaviour is acceptable within the game in the 21st Century.

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I'm fairly sure Sky Sports could provide enough quality pictures of this chap for GH over the last few years.

There was a game this season where I'm sure it was part of the group who often hang around with this guy who tried to skip the queue by going in through the concessions turnstile in the South Stand and then b[ii[/itched and moaned at the stewards for not letting them through and making them get in the proper queue.

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Quote: BaldRick "He ain't a bad lad really . Just gets a bit boisterous , sometimes to the point of obnoxious , when he has had a few beers . '"


If the folk he travels with and who choose to stand with him regard him as a noxious drunk then he's got something of a problem going on. No surprise that others regard him less favourably. Pity none of his "mates" seem to want to point this out to him, you'd have thought it's the least that could be done for someone who's not a bad lad underneath.

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Quote: Him "There was a game this season where I'm sure it was part of the group who often hang around with this guy who tried to skip the queue by going in through the concessions turnstile in the South Stand and then b[ii[/itched and moaned at the stewards for not letting them through and making them get in the proper queue.'"

I remember that one . BFBB wasn't present when that happened .
It was a cup match . JR had forgotten to get our tickets , so we were having to pay on the gate but the cash turnstyles had run out of tickets . We didn't try to skip the queue . We merely moved across to the next one which was the only one with any tickets. Yes it was the concession one . I was asking why we couldn't just pay full price and enter the ground . I told them I wasn't bothered about a ticket . I just wanted to get in to watch the game . I wasn't the only one doing so either .
When we eventually got into the ground (late because of the incompetence of the ground staff ) they said we couldn't go up to our usual place in the SS because it was full . We did manage to get to where we wanted by following directions from other stewards . They sent us up the steps at the easterly side , and told us to walk down to pitchside and across to where we wanted to be . Why didn't they just let us go up the steps we went to in the first place ? Attendance that day was around 7k IIRC , and I don't think BFBB actually attended .

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