Agreed. We both know that isn't going to happen.



Yep. My point exactly. He could've/should've done a whole lot more given he was at one time the best FB in the league. Running backwards and pointing is just like making his excuses before he's even made the mistake. Nobody would've blamed him for attempting the tackle and getting stepped, dummied, whatever. Just watching Chase run around him however... not good enough.

The more I consider him re-signing the more I don't like the decision. He has done some special things, but has stood out very little this year. He will clearly be first choice again next year.

To be honest, this is exactly what I don't want decision makers thinking. I couldn't care less how much we're paying any player to sit in the stands if they're not performing on the field. I'd prefer to drop any player that has strung together a series of poor performances if we have adequate cover.

I agree, but they have taken him on another contract. I would like to see BJB given the reins at full back and I can't see that happening with Webb at the club. It's a shame cos he has been so good in the past, but time to move on for me.

Or.... Just maybe.. he was using his skills as a fullback (honed over years playing top level RL) and was pointing to the support runners in communication with the other defeners coming back for them to pick up the support runners. If he makes the tackle when chase goes for the corner, it would have been hailed as top class full back play. Webb did everything right, apart from not making/missing the tackle when Chase stepped for the corner. Webbs pointing and back peddling allowed the defence to get back and prevent Chase using his support, he just didnt get his timing/positioning right to then make the tackle. Fair play, give him grief for that - but surely you cant think you've got better fullback decision making than Webb.

In that situation you have to take the man. Especially when a player like Chase is on you. So, in that situation, I agree with RR that Webb's decision making was poor.

The criticism for Webb on the chase try is very harsh. Chris clarksons late retreat from the ruck was exposed by chase leading to a poor effort from clarkson. Webb pointed to the covering defence to pick up the support, had he committed straight away the 2v1 would have left the cover short so he tried to delay chase decision making though didn't have the legs peddling back on a guy at the other end of his career.

Watch it back. Webb HAS to go for the man. He has several opportunities to attempt a tackle long before he does. The Leeds chasers (Hall who's cutting across, Watkins & Bailey - yes Bailey!) are quickly closing in on the supporting Cas player (Youngquest) and would've caught him long before the line.

Had Webb had attempted a tackle on Chase he would've a) Tackled him or b) forced the pass to Youngquest who would've been caught or c) slowed him down enough for Watkins & Hall to catch up.

You ask any coach... the Full Back in those situations should ALWAYS go for the man with the ball.

So just reading back a bit, am I right in thinking that people saw webbs pointing as him trying to pin the responsibility on the other covering defenders? If true I'd give in trying to express 'knowledge' of the game.

Also 9/10 I'd expect the ball carrier to win on a 1v1 in that situation.

It was me that said about the pointing. It was amateurish. At best. He was asking Watkins/Hall to go for Youngquest, then made no attempt to go for Rangi. That's stupid. What's the point in saying... "You two get him!" then not getting the other bloke yourself?!

I'd expect a try 9/10 in that situation too. But just backtracking and letting him run at you is more like 10/10. At least ATTEMPT a tackle before it's too late.

Quite. Just like you might have expected BJBs young legs to beat McGoldricks in the same situation. Yet these people that are slating Webb want BJB handed the full back position. Based upon him running through treacle for the last 20 yards of his break I wonder why they think he would have done any better than Webb with the Chase try?

An excellent read of the play by the way, even if you did pinch my earlier observations of Clarkson's lazy/tired retreat

Agree - but he couldnt go for the man until the defenders had the support covered. He help up the decision making of Chase sufficiently to allow the cover defence to prevent a simple 2 on 1, he just didnt have the speed to get to Chase once he'd gone for the corner.

If Webb had gone for Chase at the first opportunity, a simple 2 on 1 and try under the sticks would have followed. Webb did everything right, barr actually make the tackle. He didnt make the tackle because Chase had the pace on him, in addition, Webb's body position wasn't great, meaning he had to turn across himself to try get to Chase, Chase was simply too good and too quick in that 1 on 1 occasion. I'm not saying Webb is blame free, afterall, he didnt make the tackle, but I think it was more a technical and physical fault, rather than decision making.

I'm only making ONE POINT... That Webb is way past his best, and should not have been signed for next season.

I defy anybody to watch it back, then come on here and tell me that you think pre-backinjury Webb would've conceded that try.

Good passer of the ball Webb..........especially forwards!

But seriously will be interesting to see if he has another year in the tank...............overall his spell with the club has been very good but lets hope it ends with a good year!