We would have finished 5th or 6th last season had it not been for some outstanding performances from McGuire last year who was at the top of his game. It is too soon to expect DM to regain his speed and form this season.

The same applies to JP. So two positions are being taken by players who are under par. We also do not have a forward with the aggressive go forward that Eastwood gave us towards the end of last season.

Add to this the fact that several players who were past it last year are now another year older and slower etc. Therefore to expect a better than 5th place finish is unrealistic.

I still believe that if we can get our best players fit and in form for the playoffs then despite all that has happened we could cause some upsets from wherever we finish.

Reet good thread is this

I predict this.

Wigan
Warrington
Giants
Stains
Catalans
Leeds
Hull
Cas

And calm down boys we are just leading people into a false sense of security, We will win it from sixth, To be honest i would prefer us to finish 8th and win it from there but sixth will do,

I reckon we should just about scrape it into 7th/8th, and will simply be making up the numbers this, and possibly next season.

As for the CC? Gawd knows. There is enough talent in the squad to reach Wembley, just not sure there's a creditable PLan A.

We do have enough talent in the squad for the challenge cup, but we have had al year and it hasnt gone well. its the cup so anything can happen, IMO Leeds only chance (slim one) of silverwere is the CC

If, and it's looking like a big if, we beat Hull and get into the CC semi, then Brian has a chance to crew up the 'win two, lose two' sequence.

I think that the play-offs should be easily achievable, not because we're any good, but because there are at least 6 teams worse than us. I think we'll finish 5th or 6th. Doubt we'll make much progress in the play-offs, and the CC is a bit of a lottery, but we'd likely have to beat a top 4 team, not something we've excelled in this season

Still think we will finish 5th/6th?

5th is increasingly appearing to be a distant and unlikely prospect.

6th is easily achievable though. Leeds only have to finish ahead of SL rabble like Hull and Castleford.

The game against Hull will decide if Leeds finish above Hull - if they lose 7th is the best they can hope for

I don't agree with that because Hull define inconsistency, week in... week out.

The CC game will have a bigger bearing on who finishes above who in SL. I would suggest that the winner of the QF in two weeks time are more likely to finish below the loser of that CC game.

We have a hard run of fixtures including Leeds/Wigan/Cats/Wire so a defeat to us would not mean we would finish above you.

Leeds have 2 likely wins - Harlequins and Wakey, given they only have 3 days prep for Hull who have had a whole week I struggle to see them winning that, with Brough back at Huddersfield they will lose their. That leaves Salford A and Cas at H to decide where they finish

3 defeats in 11 games doesn't smack of inconsistancy to me, two of them losses to hudds and saints who both spanked leeds over the pitch

normally i would be confident of a win next week if it was any other team, but we alway seem to under-peform at leeds in the league even when we have been playing well

No!

In a word you could be correct