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After their result against H'field maybe it's not going to be the easy ride back to match fitness for our dynamic duo on Monday

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I would be very surprised if they don't get a run in the under 20s first.

If they were wingers then yes as we are struggling a bit with the Watkins/Smith/Hardacre injuries. But in the front row we are very healthy at the min and one more game playing Sinfield at 6 won't do any harm.

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Quote: RhinoNeil "I would be very surprised if they don't get a run in the under 20s first.

If they were wingers then yes as we are struggling a bit with the Watkins/Smith/Hardacre injuries. But in the front row we are very healthy at the min and one more game playing Sinfield at 6 won't do any harm.'"


Ah but playing Burrow one more game at 7 might do so

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think im gonna buy a celebratery cake in honour of the return of at least one of our better players chef.gif k020.gif

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I asked McGuire at Elland Road last week as he sits up in my bit from time to time and he said hopefully 2 weeks or so I wouldn't be surprised to see him play on Monday!

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



I don't understand the point of playing in the U20s. If they're fit then they can play. The injuries will have been tested in every way in rehab and training. They may take a while to reach full match fitness but I'd rather have a Danny McGuire and Jamie Peacock eased back in for 30-40 minutes than Ian Kirke or Weller Hauraki playing those minutes.

The club will be doing everything to make sure they are right - anyone suggesting they are being rushed back is deluded.

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Quote: Andy R "The club will be doing everything to make sure they are right - anyone suggesting they are being rushed back is deluded.'"


Perish the thought that the club would bring back a player not fully fit.
Remind me, was Senior fit at Cardiff?

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Quote: Andy R "I don't understand the point of playing in the U20s. If they're fit then they can play. '"



There's 2 types of fit (well 3). Physically fit and match fit (3rd is Sinny fit... ohhh errr). Playing them in an U20s game or 2 gives them time to get used to playing again, especially after a long break like these two have had. Its better than putting them on the bench and just giving them 20 mins each because thats a waste of interchange spots. Personally I wouldnt risk them Monday but would bring them back Friday.

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: Rhino Bucs "Perish the thought that the club would bring back a player not fully fit.
Remind me, was Senior fit at Cardiff?'"


Yes, the medical staff said so icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

As you well know, this is a completely different scenario. Much less important game & a much more serious injury.

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: Harrigan "There's 2 types of fit (well 3). Physically fit and match fit (3rd is Sinny fit... ohhh errr). Playing them in an U20s game or 2 gives them time to get used to playing again, especially after a long break like these two have had. Its better than putting them on the bench and just giving them 20 mins each because thats a waste of interchange spots. Personally I wouldnt risk them Monday but would bring them back Friday.'"


I wouldn't be overly keen on them playing for the first time in the same game to be honest. If McGuire is OK for Monday I'd bring him on after about half an hour and shift Sinfield into the pack

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When McGuire and JP do return they won't be match fit - no training can get you that. I would rather see McGuire given a little fitness test and get back into the swing of things against U20s opposition rahter than Super League opposition. Michael Maguire did it with Richards...

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Quote: nantwichexile "Ah but playing Burrow one more game at 7 might do so'"

He got MOTM against Bulls icon_eek.gif I don't know how, as all he seemed to do was the one trick pony move which nearly caught Bradford a couple of times but even that shower of shi7e managed to get to him.

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: RhinoNeil "When McGuire and JP do return they won't be match fit - no training can get you that. I would rather see McGuire given a little fitness test and get back into the swing of things against U20s opposition rahter than Super League opposition. Michael Maguire did it with Richards...'"


I know Michael Maguire can walk on water but that doesn't necessarily mean it's always the best option!

There's no such thing as being fit for an U20s games and not a first team game. If he's not fit to play first team then playing in the under 20s would be an enormous, unecessary risk. The question then becomes...Does a Danny McGuire playing to build up match fitness weaken our current side. I don't think it does so would give him a run out on Monday

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Quote: Andy R "

There's no such thing as being fit for an U20s games and not a first team game. If he's not fit to play first team then playing in the under 20s would be an enormous, unecessary risk.'"


Disagree. Yes there is such thing. I'm not talking about fitness with his injury as I'm sure that would be healed now hence why the medical staff have eased him back into full training and squad selection. I'm talking about fitness in the lungs and the reactions that differ in speeds between U20s and SL.
I'm quite a keen runner, I run marathons but if I got injured for 8 months I wouldn't lace my trainers and enter a marathon straight away! Its the same for McGuire, ease your way back in at a level where least amount of questions will be asked about you.

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: RhinoNeil "Disagree. Yes there is such thing. I'm not talking about fitness with his injury as I'm sure that would be healed now hence why the medical staff have eased him back into full training and squad selection. I'm talking about fitness in the lungs and the reactions that differ in speeds between U20s and SL.
I'm quite a keen runner, I run marathons but if I got injured for 8 months I wouldn't lace my trainers and enter a marathon straight away! Its the same for McGuire, ease your way back in at a level where least amount of questions will be asked about you.'"


He'll have been doing more cardio work than anyone else in the team I imagine while he unable to do full contact. He will be a bit rusty but I would expect him to cover almost as much ground in a U20 game than a first team game. He'll handle the ball as much if not more, still have to go back 10 every time. In many ways he could end up doing more running in a U20s game as lines seem to be broken more frequently. He'd also have a target on his back saying "I'm Danny McGuire - make a name for yourself." In a first team game he can have the luxury of getting involved when he chooses with the other playmakers we would have on the field. The collisions might be harder but there is no one who can say he wouldn't have a massive collision in a 20s games.

If he is fit to play, he is fit to play in the first team.

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